Pagan Origins of the Christian Faith (Phil. Daily Inquirer)

[regnauld]

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dli ba ni a subjective question sir that also has a subjective answer?..bacn dli nasad mo magkasinabot sa tubag ani..well anyway ako lang na..hehe

It's actually in the bible my friend! Jesus knows it!

[st.anthony]

@st. anthony

sir!! naa ko question...naa bai verse sa bible nga gi highlight ang freewill?...naa ba jd na sa bible or was..insinuated lang..or the word freewill was coined by the priests para masabtan sa common peeps..when no one is allowed to read the bible yet.

YES naa kaau sa

2 Chronicles 35:8 in the NAS

His officers also contributed a freewill offering to the people, the priests and the Levites. Hilkiah and Zechariah and Jehiel, the officials of the house of God, gave to the priests for the Passover offerings 2,600 from the flocks and 300 bulls.

sa latin vulagata

duces quoque eius sponte quod voluerant obtulerunt tam populo quam sacerdotibus et Levitis porro Helcias et Zaccharias et Iehihel principes domus Domini dederunt sacerdotibus ad faciendum phase pecora commixtim duo milia sescenta et boves trecentos

but it differs in other versions

[regnauld]

because, mr.regnauld, the sun is not an Anthropomorphic God.

Are you saying that the GOD of the LITERALIST CHRISITANS is the Anthropomorphic GOD? I know!

[st.anthony]

I see its not your theology but the Catholic. So, are you saying that the Catholic Church theology is universal and true to all people and religions?

You are a CHRISTIAN. But I was asking if you are really a TRUE CHRISTIAN. Are you a TRUE CHRISTIAN and what are the SIGNS of a TRUE CHRISTIAN?

HUH said again that CATHOLIC CHURCH THEOLOGY is true to all peoples and religions? wala the UNIVERSAL there is reserve only to those who are members of the universal catholic church, why its universal because its present in countries and contenents.

Bro the sign of a true can be found in the bible, you said you are a high school seminarian before, how come you are still asking for a very fundamental question that even you can answer, whats the purpose? you are even quoting verses in the bible so how you dont know and your still asking me?

[regnauld]

YES naa kaau sa

2 Chronicles 35:8 in the NAS

His officers also contributed a freewill offering to the people, the priests and the Levites. Hilkiah and Zechariah and Jehiel, the officials of the house of God, gave to the priests for the Passover offerings 2,600 from the flocks and 300 bulls.

sa latin vulagata

duces quoque eius sponte quod voluerant obtulerunt tam populo quam sacerdotibus et Levitis porro Helcias et Zaccharias et Iehihel principes domus Domini dederunt sacerdotibus ad faciendum phase pecora commixtim duo milia sescenta et boves trecentos

but it differs in other versions

Do you think man has ABSOLUTE FREEDOM?

[regnauld]

HUH said again that CATHOLIC CHURCH THEOLOGY is true to all peoples and religions? wala the UNIVERSAL there is reserve only to those who are members of the universal catholic church, why its universal because its present in countries and contenents.

Bro the sign of a true can be found in the bible, you said you are a high school seminarian before, how come you are still asking for a very fundamental question that even you can answer, whats the purpose? you are even quoting verses in the bible so how you dont know and your still asking me?

I see its reserve ONLY to those who are members of the universal catholic church. So, in that case it is not applicable to all people ONLY to the Catholics, am I right?

I jut want you to know if you are really a TRUE CHRISTIAN.

Do you believe that outside the catholic church , there is no salvation?

[st.anthony]

I see its reserve ONLY to those who are members of the universal catholic church. So, in that case it is not applicable to all people ONLY to the Catholics, am I right?

I jut want you to know if you are really a TRUE CHRISTIAN.

Do you believe that outside the catholic church , there is no salvation?

YES i do, but do know what really means? Your a cathechist right, you should have read the CCC its in there those are official documents

[Ramini]

so im using it

[regnauld]

YES i do, but do know what really means? Your a cathechist right, you should have read the CCC its in there those are official documents

What if I say to you that the TRUE CHRISTIAN is the SALT OF THE EARTH and THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD, would you accept it?

[st.anthony]

I see its reserve ONLY to those who are members of the universal catholic church. So, in that case it is not applicable to all people ONLY to the Catholics, am I right?

I jut want you to know if you are really a TRUE CHRISTIAN.

Do you believe that outside the catholic church , there is no salvation?

CCC

Outside the Church there is no salvation"


846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?[335] Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church.

He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.[336]
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
[337]

848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."[338]