Pagan Origins of the Christian Faith (Phil. Daily Inquirer)

[Hellblazer 2.1]

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if paganism is ignorance, unsa na lang kaha ang religionism no? way below ignorance tingali.

[regnauld]

paganism is pure ignorance

About what? Can you be more specific?

[regnauld]

mas feel nako ang Pagan religion, its simple, very natural, di sya dogmatic, di doctrinal, mag offer lang ng animals for some request & thats it you go on w/ your life, stressfree

I agree stress free! Mag sun worshipper nalang ko ani as what Geroge Carlin said, the sun shines to all and doesn't judge!

[Hellblazer 2.1]

because, mr.regnauld, the sun is not an Anthropomorphic God.

[Ramini]

if offering animals and stuff is paganism then nganong mao manang gbutang nga paagi sa pag please sa ginoo sa kang cain ug abel..kapoi kaayo ning bible oi..daghan symbolism..i bet sandamakmak napd na nga mga hidden meanings and symbols na dapat nmo i uncover usa nmo makuha ang tinuod..no wonder

[st.anthony]

You know reg, the problem with is that you are always trying to prove something you could not even prove yourself and "QUOTING" these writings of unknown history of there life, social status, belief, descipline and ext, since this would matter on the authors subject on his literarry works.

How ever we CHRISTIANS are just very scandalize because of your horrible ideas that is without basis, and scientific and historical proof.

Philo Judaeus states that Moses instituted the showbread with twelve loaves in order to represent the twelve tribes of Israel; and that he divided the nation into twelve tribes in order to represent the twelve signs of the zodiac.

Jacob’s Ladder

Jacob’s ladder appears in the ‘Tracing Board’ and is reaching into the Heavens. Jacob was the grandson of Abraham and Sarah, the son of Isaac and Rebecca. Jacob's 12 sons were the ancestors of the 12 tribes of Israel. The 12 tribes of Israel is a reference to the twelve houses of the Zodiac, just like the 12 apostles of Jesus are. That’s why Leonardo Da Vinci portrayed the apostles in 4 groups of three in his painting of the Last Supper separating the zodiac into four seasons.

Leonardo Da Vinci, Last Supper with four groups of apostles

Notice by the way that there is no chalice on the table!

Jacob dreamt of the Milky Way as a ladder with angels ascending and descending it. The ascending angles of course are the up and down moving stars in the sky.
And he dreamed that there was a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven; and behold, the angels of God were ascending and descending on it!
(Gen 28:12)

Milky Way erect during summer

During summertime the Milky Way stands erect on the horizon and forms a ‘Stairway to Heaven’ or Jacob’s ladder. The idea of representing the Milky Way as a stairway or ladder leading to Heaven was a very common theme in ancient times. This idea was expressed as a rope, a tree (World Tree) or a ladder leading into the skies. The Maya called the Milky Way the Wakah Chan during summer sunrise ‘the raised up sky’ and it was represented as the World Tree.

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This idea of Mr. REG is not valid in any point of reasonning, he just trying to prove something that he cannot and since making annalogies which not elogical in any sense?

The idea of mr. reg is collecting PARTICULAR ideas to make it a UNIVERSAL idea which in either way would not work.

example:

there are 12 apostles
and there are 12 zodiac signs
therefore both apostles and zodiac signs thesame since there 12.

a nonsense and vague conclusion! But the best way to find the TRUTH is looking the beg PICTURE (UNIVERSAL) then disecting the facts (particulars) of a picture, not making many particular conclusion then making a universal out of those facts.

EXAMPLE

EARTH

whats is earth, what is it made of? who made it, is it alone? ext. so that we can arrive to the truth about earth.

HUMANS

what is a human person, what are the two physical appearance of a human being/person, how they differ from each other, then will arrive in a universal conclusion about humans

THUS I can see that mr. reg is making all things appear that big that he doesnt to want to particularize each detail which will give the truth on a particular topic.

always making statements like; GOD is UNIVERSAL, shoudnt we ask questions about that universal GOD? but mr. reg is making things so universal that even budha, jesus, brahma, sheva ext are all thesame in his eyes. WHICH to FAR from the TRUTH.

DO you have a family REG? is your family same with mine? or the rest of the WORLD? the answer is NO. THUS the IDEA of FAMILY is UNIVERSAL but for us to understand it we need to check every culture, history, religion, ideologies ext to see whats that reality of a family mr. reg. same with everything.

we always have our differences and you will not be able to make am ideology that would make it ONE!

It's called The INDEX LIBRORUM PROHIBITORUM

The Index Librorum Prohibitorum ("List of Prohibited Books") was a list of publications prohibited by the Roman Catholic Church. It was abolished on June 14, 1966 by Pope Paul VI.[1]
A first version (the Pauline Index) was promulgated by Pope Paul IV in 1559, and a revised and somewhat relaxed form (the Tridentine Index) was authorized at the Council of Trent. The promulgation of the Index marked the "turning-point in the freedom of enquiry" in the Catholic world.[2]
The avowed aim of the list was to protect the faith and morals of the faithful by preventing the reading of immoral books or works containing theological errors, although it also contained scientific works by leading astronomers such as Johannes Kepler. The various editions also contained the rules of the Church relating to the reading, selling and censorship of books. Manuscripts that passed inspection by official readers were printed with nihil obstat ("nothing forbids") or Imprimatur ("let it be printed") on the title page.
However, some of the scientific works on the Index (e.g. on the foundations of cosmology) are now routinely taught at Catholic universities worldwide, and Giordano Bruno whose works were on the Index now has a monument in Rome at the place where he was burned alive at the stake. The writings of Maria Valtorta that were on the Index have since received an imprimatur from a Roman Catholic bishop.[3] Mary Faustina Kowalska, who was on the Index, has since been declared a saint.[4][5] The developments since the abolition of the Index signify "the loss of relevance of the Index in the 21st century."[6]




Title page of Index Librorum Prohibitorum (Venice 1564).






Index Librorum Prohibitorum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So what can say about the works? WE are the pilgrim church bro, where not dead, we commit mistakes but those mistakes doesnt affect the church holiness.

[st.anthony]

if offering animals and stuff is paganism then nganong mao manang gbutang nga paagi sa pag please sa ginoo sa kang cain ug abel..kapoi kaayo ning bible oi..daghan symbolism..i bet sandamakmak napd na nga mga hidden meanings and symbols na dapat nmo i uncover usa nmo makuha ang tinuod..no wonder

MAO bro sabta og basaha, para u maka get sa gpang suwat diha, before you make your conclusions

[Ramini]

MAO bro sabta og basaha, para u maka get sa gpang suwat diha, before you make your conclusions

nitipas na akong interest ana bro..but if you want to explain it for me then i am willing to listen and say something about your explanation.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

nitipas na akong interest ana bro..but if you want to explain it for me then i am willing to listen and say something about your explanation.

be careful, Herr L. i-excommunicate 'nya ka ana niya.

[Ramini]

i already excommunicated myself...that's my choice..freewill pero i guess i have to pay for it man ghapon in the end..kai muadto man kos ever burning furnace of fire and sulphur..but still god loves me...and he so lovingly chose to give his creations freewill to go against him..but still went on with it knowing that not all of his creations will be obedient..i don't know..just like what brownprose said..."where do i jump?"...hehehe!