Second Look on Islam

[rcruman]

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basa...

And the swine, though it has a split hoof completely divided, yet it chews not the cud; it is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall you not eat, and their carcass shall you not touch; they are unclean to you. (Leviticus 11:7–


oh kana para na sa mga motoo sa bibliya...hala mo kaon lagi mo ug mamoy rcruman?

nya kung ako basahon ang New testament, dili nimo dawaton?
bro ayaw tan-aw og salida nga tunga-tunga pa gani kay conclude dayon ka, tiwasa ang salida.
Mao pud na sa bible.

ako usbon, KUNG MABASA NAKO SA NEW TESTAMENT NGA GIINGON NI JESUS NGA DILI NA BAWAL, UNSA MAN MUANGKON KA NGA KULANG IMO NAHIBAW-AN SA BIBLE?

pEACE!

[Malic]

Nya pag-abot ni Jesus?
so kung ato subayon imo tubag pasabot ba nga naay duha ka linya or dalan ang nahimo gikan kang moses?
sa Christian og sa Islam?
nya mutuo ka nga gilimpyohan na ni Jesus ang tanang hayop nga hugaw nga gipangbawal sa book of Leviticus?

kinsay nauna si Jesus o si Muhammad?
kung si Jesus imo tubag meaning mas gipili sa Islam ang sundon si Moises kaysa kay Jesus?



yes naa, kay dili tanan naa sa amoa kay mga tarong.
og kung mahibaw-an namo kay amo itiwalag, ana mi dili mi mukupot og miembro aron ingon daghan.
mas maayo pa ang gamay nga tarong kaysa daghan nya yabag.

nya sa inyo mga badlungon unsa inyo buhaton? itiwalag or pasayluon aron daghan gihapon og dili alkanse kung magkinaunsa man gani?

Peace!

mao ni sabta rcruman. Ang lahi o race ni Hesus Hudeo. Ang mga Hudeo dili mo kaon ug Baboy. Imo pasabot nga kato si Hesus ni kaon ug Baboy?


gi limpyohan? kanusa niya gi limpyohan? matud pa ni Hesus rcruman...I came here not to destroy the LAW , apil na tong Mosaic LAW nga nahisulat sa leviticus.


hahaha wa kay lain ikatubag...abot naman ka ug tiwalag tiwalag diha. focus ta sa mamoy.

[Malic]

nya kung ako basahon ang New testament, dili nimo dawaton?
bro ayaw tan-aw og salida nga tunga-tunga pa gani kay conclude dayon ka, tiwasa ang salida.
Mao pud na sa bible.

ako usbon, KUNG MABASA NAKO SA NEW TESTAMENT NGA GIINGON NI JESUS NGA DILI NA BAWAL, UNSA MAN MUANGKON KA NGA KULANG IMO NAHIBAW-AN SA BIBLE?

pEACE!

basaha kay ako nakabasa napod ko ana...

nya kung sayop na imo pasabot...angkon ka nga bogo ka sa bible?

sige basa...ayaw e interpet ha...

[Malic]

while waiting for rcruman's verses...basa sa ta ani...

Swine politics

It is interesting to note that many of the diseases associated with pigs are also present in carcasses of other animals forbidden for consumption in Islam, including cats, dogs, rats, bears, and beasts of prey. Bear meat, for example, is currently the leading cause of cases of trichinosis in the US (Trichinosis).

While most people in the Western World would not dream of eating dogs, cats, or rats (and would express disgust when hearing of people in other parts of the world who do eat these animals), it seems that there is a peculiar cultural bias when it comes to swine. Such a bias exists despite the fact that many people are well aware of the dangers swine poses to human health and are old enough to remember the trichinosis outbreaks that plagued the US during the first half of the 20th century.

Swine herding, along with the production, sale, and export of swine products, is a billion-dollar industry in the US which may be a reason for downplaying the role of swine in various health conditions (US Breaks Pork Export Volume and Value Records).

Raising pigs requires enormous vigilance, care, and attention to their health and hygiene. In many countries, regulations may exist but are not meaningfully enforced, and the potential for disease to spread to humans is ever-present.

While some of the above diseases are admittedly rare, others are much more common, depending on the area of the world, the conditions pigs are raised in (and what they eat), the personal hygienic habits of the people responsible for the pigs, and other factors.

A disease that has been controlled for the time being in a particular location may easily appear again in the face of shifting government policies (and people's willingness to follow them), access to equipment and vaccines, wars, natural disasters and their impact on the environment, economic conditions, migration patterns, and people's level of knowledge and education (Arnold and other sources).

Several years ago, Egyptian writer and scholar Sayyid Qutub (1906-1966) commented on the controversy surrounding pork consumption when he wrote,

Some people may argue that modern cooking facilities could eliminate the affliction of these worms by the high temperatures used, but these people overlook the fact that it took them centuries to come to know about this one disease. Who can guarantee that there are no other undiscovered diseases in the swine's flesh?

Are we not supposed to trust the sacred law which preceded human science by tens of centuries and let it give us the decisive ruling on the matter? Are we not supposed to adhere to its laws whereby permission and prohibition come from our Lord who is full of wisdom and well acquainted with everything? (Al-Majid)

[rcruman]

mao ni sabta rcruman. Ang lahi o race ni Hesus Hudeo. Ang mga Hudeo dili mo kaon ug Baboy. Imo pasabot nga kato si Hesus ni kaon ug Baboy?

dili mukaon? sure ka?
mao gani ako pangutana sa imoha ganiha, ako usbon kay wala nimo tubaga og ako pa imo gibali.

ako usbon, KUNG MABASA NAKO SA NEW TESTAMENT NGA GIINGON NI JESUS NGA DILI NA BAWAL, UNSA MAN MUANGKON KA NGA KULANG IMO NAHIBAW-AN SA BIBLE?

kung ako lagi mabasa, unsa imo stand?
si Jesus mismo ang niingon og ang mga apostol.

gi limpyohan? kanusa niya gi limpyohan?

kini basaha:
18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
Mark 7:18-20

wala ka kabasa ani or wala mo pabasaha?

matud pa ni Hesus rcruman...I came here not to destroy the LAW , apil na tong Mosaic LAW nga nahisulat sa leviticus.
hahaha wa kay lain ikatubag...abot naman ka ug tiwalag tiwalag diha. focus ta sa mamoy.

ayay, kadako og lain ni nga issue bro, pero sige tubagon tika ani.
una tika tubagon, mangutana sa ko.

Unsa nga Law ang dili paksayon si Jesus?
Tanan bang law?
kini bro basaha:

5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Hebrew 10:5-8

bro ang Sabbath ba LAW or dili?
kung Law, gibuak/gisupak ba ni Jesus?
so sayop na daan ang imo basehan nga

.I came here not to destroy the LAW , apil na tong Mosaic LAW nga nahisulat sa leviticus.

OG TAYM PA, TUO MAN LAGI KA BIBLE OG NI JESUS?
SO SELECTION RA IMO TUOHAN?

Peace!

[rcruman]

bro malic, basin mo conclude napud ka nga nikakak ko kay maayo ra ba ka muhunahuna og ingon ana sa imo kaistorya.

mananghid lang ko daan nimo, 1 hr ra ako giabang dinhi sa internet cafe, og muadto nako kay naa pako adtuon.

Peace!

[NASYO]

bro malic, basin mo conclude napud ka nga nikakak ko kay maayo ra ba ka muhunahuna og ingon ana sa imo kaistorya.

mananghid lang ko daan nimo, 1 hr ra ako giabang dinhi sa internet cafe, og muadto nako kay naa pako adtuon.

Peace!

discussion lang ni ato bro. walay kakak2X diri.

[rcruman]

discussion lang ni ato bro. walay kakak2X diri.

toink pataka napud og sumpay.

hhhhhaaaaaayyyyy nimo nasyo.

Peace!

[Malic]

dili mukaon? sure ka?
mao gani ako pangutana sa imoha ganiha, ako usbon kay wala nimo tubaga og ako pa imo gibali.


kung ako lagi mabasa, unsa imo stand?
si Jesus mismo ang niingon og ang mga apostol.



kini basaha:
18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
Mark 7:18-20

wala ka kabasa ani or wala mo pabasaha?




ayay, kadako og lain ni nga issue bro, pero sige tubagon tika ani.
una tika tubagon, mangutana sa ko.

Unsa nga Law ang dili paksayon si Jesus?
Tanan bang law?
kini bro basaha:

5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Hebrew 10:5-8

bro ang Sabbath ba LAW or dili?
kung Law, gibuak/gisupak ba ni Jesus?
so sayop na daan ang imo basehan nga

OG TAYM PA, TUO MAN LAGI KA BIBLE OG NI JESUS?
SO SELECTION RA IMO TUOHAN?

Peace!

Common sense rcruman...common sense...

Si Hesus osa ka follower sa Judaism...ang Judaism dili motogot nga mokaon ug baboy ang ilang myembro. Therefore si Hesus dili mo kaon ug baboy.


basaha lagi...basta angkona kung sayop ka nga bogo ka sa bible.

mao na kanang MARK? mao na imong depensa?


gisupak ang sabbath? ka vague ani nga pangutana rcruman.

unsay pasabot nimo sa supak? gi supak kay iyang gi usab ang sabbath or gi supak kay nilapas na sa intended nga limit sa balaod?

wa ko kasabot ana imong hebrew kung para unsa na kay kabahin na sa sacrifice ni Hesus. Wala'y nakasuwat diha kung gi osab ba or wala ang balaod.

[Malic]

bro malic, basin mo conclude napud ka nga nikakak ko kay maayo ra ba ka muhunahuna og ingon ana sa imo kaistorya.

mananghid lang ko daan nimo, 1 hr ra ako giabang dinhi sa internet cafe, og muadto nako kay naa pako adtuon.

Peace!

hahahahahahaha....ka alegre sa life...matud pa ni Regnauld.