Are You an Atheist, Agnostic or a Believer?

[Ramini]

I don't that's the case sir. Religion is just an organization run by people who tried to be saint. Being one of them makes me realize how critical to discriminate personal beliefs. No one ever said to impose what you believe to others... things got outta hand when people are too self-righteous when it comes to their own religion.

I am a catholic and I believe in God... if they think that my belief is different from them... I don't really mind what they think because they are not the ones who is going to save my own soul but me.

oh..i know you're not one of the blind devouts who just devour everything without ever thinking...maybe the majority is the self-righteous ones...i can still see their cringing face whenever they encounter "unbelievers"..worst still they frown maskn nag catholic pero lahi lang ug kampo...that's so sad

[handsoff241]

hehe!! i never mentioned regnauld's name in my last post..cguro regnauld fits the description but im not going to say or judge nga mao najd na ang style sa pamisar niya...pero i don't deny nga sometimes ingon ana si regnauld mudala ug istorya..pero even that judgement is purely subjective sa akoa..so still it's debatable kai ang akong conclusion based rman pd sa akoang nabantayan which is subject for scrutiny pa pd..unless ato ipa analyze si regnauld ug usa ka expert or whatever to come up with an accurate generalization sa style sa iyang paminsar....in short...usahay mu fit usahay dli..that's why i never gave him special mention or whoever man..kai bacn ako pd diay ang naai problema kai wla ako na misinterpret si regnauld..

Reg, here is the answer why I had a feeling that Ramini was talking bout you. It's a case completely subject to one's own perception of things.

[handsoff241]

I think we only have a clash of terms here. It's probably best to define what they (atheism, agnosticism or a believer) are so we have a common ground as to whether or not one can be called an atheist or agnostic, etc.

Like a standard criteria for the terms? Ts never bothered having that...

I guess the thread title is already problematic. Because it presupposes a Believer to be one who believes in (a) god. To be a believer is not exclusive only to questions of faith.

Well that was the whole idea was. Presupposition of who we are, see how mr. chad tuke decided that he belong "somewhere in the middle". lol

[handsoff241]

Religion is just an organization run by people who tried to be saint.

There is nothing wrong with that, right?

[LIBER777]

VOTE of them.....

[mich_pink03]

Atheist, Theist or Agnostic?

..the hell.. it doesn't matter..

What matters is that we don't expense others prerogative for our own happiness and knowledge..
we always differ in our beliefs and there's nothing we can do about it coz it's their beliefs..

.. and I don't have any problems to any people having other beliefs other than mines..

that's good.. at least you know how to respect other peoples belief..

[chad_tukes]

@chad tukes

well imoha sad na..pero mura man gd ug walai sure asa ka ni stand kai your both standing on two territories one foot is on the other territory..it's like having an affair or fling2x sa laing chix pero naa nagd kai official gf..i don't agree jd...it think it should be clear no gray areas.

that's exactly the point my friend! i'm standing in the middle. if you don't agree, so be it.

[chad_tukes]

@chad_tukes, Yes that "agnostic atheism" exist in your mind as a thought and because you have yourself as a proof, the only thing needed to do, is to avoid conflict by making it agree to the generally agreed individual meanings of agnostic and atheism and paving the agreed articles between the two. Hard task or just be either of the two.

it's not just a thought but that is what i am and that's where my belief system stands. it's hard to agree to generally agreed individual meanings when a combination of each exist.

[Ramini]

that's exactly the point my friend! i'm standing in the middle. if you don't agree, so be it.

don't you wanna talk about your being in the middle?...i posted my reasons as to why dapat wlai gray areas when your an atheist your an atheist period if you are an agnostic or believer then you are..wlai naa sa tunga.

[Soul Doctor]

I believe there is a God.
Not the same god discribed in the bible though.
And I believe He is somewhere in the universe creating new galaxies.

What would you call me then?