Hell is a myth

[Traditz]

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Yes but not HELL for eternity! I dont believe in HELL as eternity!

BTW, actions is not THE SOUL OR THE PERSON!

no, our actions affect our character, although our essence (our soul and our attributes as human beings) remain the same.

[Traditz]

GOD does not punish nor reward. We punish and reward ourselves through the consequences of our actions! This is THE LAW OF KARMA or CAUSE and EFFECT!

you are exactly right! og mao na ako'ng gisulti all along. in a sense, it is us who punish ourselves, not (arbitrarily) God. subject ta tanan sa natural law kay moral agents man ta.

[regnauld]

no, our actions affect our character, although our essence (our soul and our attributes as human beings) remain the same.

See? Our SOULS are ONE WITH GOD becaue the ESSENCE is always there. It will not lose its identity and therefore cannot and will not go to hell forever!

[Traditz]

But the ESSENCE is still the same. So, how can a soul go to hell forever when the ESSENCE is the same? Remember our actions and character is not the SOUL!

oo, the same gihapon ato'ng essence -- human beings nga naa'y souls.

naa ju'y relationship aton'ng actions og ato'ng souls, kay isip human beings dili lang kay puro ta soul o essence, naa pud ta'y mga lawas nga capable of doing and acting. pinaagi sa ato'ng mga lawas, mahimo ta'ng makabuhat og maayo o dautan. unya kay ang soul og ang body integral man sa ato'ng identity as human beings, mao na nga whatever we do affects who we are, affects our souls. kung puro bati ato'ng gipangbuhat dinhi'ng kalibutana, unya wala ta makadawat og pasaylo gikan sa Ginoo samtang buhi pa ta, dako ang possibilidad, gawas kung naa'y last act of grace ang Ginoo, nga mahilayo jud ta niya eternally, meaning nga ma-ato ta sa hell.

[regnauld]

oo, the same gihapon ato'ng essence -- human beings nga naa'y souls.

naa ju'y relationship aton'ng actions og ato'ng souls, kay isip human beings dili lang kay puro ta soul o essence, naa pud ta'y mga lawas nga capable of doing and acting. pinaagi sa ato'ng mga lawas, mahimo ta'ng makabuhat og maayo o dautan. unya kay ang soul og ang body integral man sa ato'ng identity as human beings, mao na nga whatever we do affects who we are, affects our souls. kung puro bati ato'ng gipangbuhat dinhi'ng kalibutana, unya wala ta makadawat og pasaylo gikan sa Ginoo samtang buhi pa ta, dako ang possibilidad, gawas kung naa'y last act of grace ang Ginoo, nga mahilayo jud ta niya eternally, meaning nga ma-ato ta sa hell.

In philosophy, essence is the attribute or set of attributes that make an object or substance what it fundamentally is, and which it has by necessity, and without which it loses its identity.

In other words, our ESSENCE as a SOUL created in the IMAGE and LIKENESS of GOD doesn't lose its IDENTITY. If I am a SON OF GOD, and GOD is my FATHER, can I lose my identity as a SON OF GOD forever? NO!

[Traditz]

See? Our SOULS are ONE WITH GOD becaue the ESSENCE is always there. It will not lose its identity and therefore cannot and will not go to hell forever!

sa ako'ng pagsabot, kini'ng "essence" nga ato'ng gi-share ni God mao kini ang mga attributes sa personhood, namely: self-awareness, independent will, creativity, og conscience. i believe kini'ng tanan magpa-bilin after we die, pero naa gihapon ta'y character to be accountable for. unsa man ato'ng character, maayo ba o bati? mao na ang i-judge ni God, pero oo magpabilin gihapon ato'ng "essence" o attributes isip creatures sa Ginoo.

[Traditz]

In philosophy, essence is the attribute or set of attributes that make an object or substance what it fundamentally is, and which it has by necessity, and without which it loses its identity.

In other words, our ESSENCE as a SOUL created in the IMAGE and LIKENESS of GOD doesn't lose its IDENTITY. If I am a SON OF GOD, and GOD is my FATHER, can I lose my identity as a SON OF GOD forever? NO!

dili ba ka mu-agree nga ato'ng actions mao ang naghatag sa ato og identity?

oo, primarily, we are sons and daughters of God, pero we are also what we make of ourselves, good or bad. mao na ang tan-awn sa Ginoo. after we die.

[Traditz]

brod reg, mutuo ba ka og NDEs?

[masterjanuarius]

mahibaw-an ra na nato unya inig kamatay nato ... in the meantime, I try my best to do good to others and to live a fulfilled life ...these make life beautiful! if I will do the contrary, I think it is living in hell already, even here and now .. the thought of hell evokes in me a holy fear of my GOD, and I would rather be with Him for all eternity.

[Traditz]

kana'ng mabuwagan ka sa imo'ng yab, di ba "hell" man na?

sama ra sab na sa afterlife. kung layo ta sa Ginoo inig kamatay nato, mura ta'g gibiyaan sa uyab ana, pero infinitely worse ato'ng experience kay God is not just any other person, he is Being himself whose essence is existence and who is the source and fountain of all joy, peace, beauty and love. imagine kung mahilayo ka sa person in whom all those things that we deeply and ultimately long for are embodied...