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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    Woa this thread should not be ending this way. Are there any Christians around here? anyway. answer to this thread in my own research is.

    Romans 3:23 said:
    for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

    Returning to Romans 3:23, we should ask further whether Paul intended to exclude exceptions when he used the word, “all”, or is he using it in a non-absolute way? To understand the context of Paul’s thought, we should look at Romans 3:10-12 wherein he quotes Psalm 14:2-3: “As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away; they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."

    ----------------------- break down
    'for all have sinned'
    Which means to say everyone is a sinners,

    'all short of the glory of God/ come short for the glory of God.' other translation
    which means come directly to him.

    Only God can do forgiveness. No more Via-via. This is one of the oldest verse Christians contest to Catholics but

    ---------------------- Catholic Answers
    It is also reasonable for us to assume that Paul would agree that infants and those who are mentally deficient cannot sin personally—two additional exceptions to the concept of “all” having sinned.

    Thus, the word “all” in Romans 3:23 cannot be used to disprove the doctrine of sinlessness of Mary.

    Correct?

    Answer: WRONG!

    Bible says:

    For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    Romans 6:23

    Meaning by the time you were born you are in effect of Sin because you are bound to die. .

    Repost lang i dont want to end this topic with something different.

    Cheers
    Bro you have to learn this practical wisdom which is not found in your bible: EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED! (Tao Te Ching)

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    @kebot What is your answer about? This thread asks about a question if saints including Mary, can hear us even if they are in heaven. I already gave an answer in the first page.

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    is he off-topic?

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    ^mura kay lahi na man ug topic ang iyang answers.

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    praying is the act of saying something that falls to deaf ears...

    murag urbandub mani... hahaha

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    God: I'm sorry, did you say something, kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    praying is the act of saying something that falls to deaf ears...
    murag urbandub mani... hahaha
    Ok, pm me when you release the first edition of your dictionary, i'd love to get a copy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    God: I'm sorry, did you say something, kit?
    joyride fafs

    i love urbandub! new tatoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    The Bible is NOT THE ULTIMATE SOURCE OF TRUTH! The ultimate source of TRUTH is you in the end and that truth should be demonstrated if its really the TRUTH!
    hala ui. musingit pa jud. gibasa nimo ang title sa topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    hala ui. musingit pa jud. gibasa nimo ang title sa topic?
    Yes and what's wrong with that? Did you read the post that he mentioned about the bible as the ultimate source of truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Yes and what's wrong with that? Did you read the post that he mentioned about the bible as the ultimate source of truth?
    the topic is not about the ultimate source of truth. ana ra mn ka simple ui.
    balik na mo topic ui.
    hahay taga topic na lng muhiwi jud.

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