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    Quote Originally Posted by Motownkid View Post


    After C***N, this would be my choice.

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    nindot sab ang CANYON

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    Quote Originally Posted by koto View Post
    SONY!!!! like no other
    sony sd na imo dslr? unsa na model?

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    For those who likes pentax, get the k20d, its a better alternative!



    and if interested, check this post
    https://www.istorya.net/forums/gadget...megapixel.html

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    grabe bitaw ka barato ang PENTAX

    i went to Camerahaus SM last week... ang PENTAX with 18-55 and a medium tele nga lens (i forgot the focal length) was sold at around 30k-40k.... hehehehe

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    Not to mention PENTAX is the only dslr on the market that offers weather resistance (splash, rain, mud, sand, temperature extremes)...

    Too bad it's still out of my budget as of now..

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    There are basically two kinds of technology companies

    Very often Sony is criticized for using technology that is sometimes different from what the competition uses. In discussions like these, it doesn't take long before Sony is pictured as an evil empire. This is my take on this.

    There are basically two kinds of technology companies. The first kind invents and develops new technology, either when there is no existing standard, or when existing standards are deemed inadequate. Some of this new technology is adopted by the industry and becomes an industry standard, and sometimes even a formal standard. But not all of the new technology is successful and may not find widespread use. So there's a risk for these companies to invest money in a technology that in the end may fail. But when it turns out to be successful, there's the incentive of becoming market leader. As a rule of thumb, if you are first on the market, you can grab 60% of the market short- to mid-term, and you can keep 40% market share long-term. Furthermore, you can get a large share of the market when the prices and profits are still high, before the technology becomes a commodity product and prices fall.

    The other kind of companies does not take the risk to develop their own technology. They wait until one standard is established and has spread throughout the industry. Then they jump on the bandwagon and release their own products using established technology. These companies do not risk money lost in development, but they also never have the chance to become market leader.

    So when one company has created many failed standards in the past, you will find – when looking closer – it also often has created many successful standards. This is just a sign that the company is active developing new standards. It's pushing technology rather than just following it.

    Sony is one of the former companies. Many people dwell on their failed or not so successful technologies, like Minidisc, Betamax etc., but overlook their successful technologies, like Walkman, Compact Disc, Trinitron and – as it looks now – Blu-ray. Also many people like to dismiss their standards as “proprietary”, while overlooking that competing standards are just as proprietary, meaning that they are not an official standard or were only made an official standard after the fact. For example, many like to call Memory Stick “proprietary” and SD Card “standard”. This is simply wrong. SD Card was an invention of SanDisk and Infineon and was developed “into the blue” just like all the other flash memory formats. By the way, SD Card is also another example that a dominating standard is not necessarily better technology. Just look at how MMC and SD are unnecessarily incompatible, and why it was necessary to change the standard – incompatible, of course – to support cards larger than 4 GB. It's similar with CompactFlash, an invention of SanDisk, based on PCMCIA (later called PC-Card), which is again based on IDE. Lots of proprietary technology there.

    In the end, most of these discussions boil down to brand wars. Technology is bad when it's invented by Sony, and it's good when invented by someone else. This does not help anybody

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    Quote Originally Posted by koto View Post
    Also many people like to dismiss their standards as “proprietary”, while overlooking that competing standards are just as proprietary, meaning that they are not an official standard or were only made an official standard after the fact. For example, many like to call Memory Stick “proprietary” and SD Card “standard”. This is simply wrong. SD Card was an invention of SanDisk and Infineon and was developed “into the blue” just like all the other flash memory formats. By the way, SD Card is also another example that a dominating standard is not necessarily better technology. Just look at how MMC and SD are unnecessarily incompatible, and why it was necessary to change the standard – incompatible, of course – to support cards larger than 4 GB. It's similar with CompactFlash, an invention of SanDisk, based on PCMCIA (later called PC-Card), which is again based on IDE. Lots of proprietary technology there.

    In the end, most of these discussions boil down to brand wars. Technology is bad when it's invented by Sony, and it's good when invented by someone else. This does not help anybody
    while i agree with most of your points...

    we consider MS as proprietary since only one company develops and uses it while SD is co-developed by over a thousand IT based companies today.
    yes MS is also a standard but SD is the de-facto industry standard.

    Panasonic, Matsushita, and Toshiba first developed SD if im not mistaken...while SanDisk and Infineon(siemens AG) first developed MMC which is what SD is based upon...
    but i could be wrong...shady kaayo ilang history hehe
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    I like the Penatx K20D alot.. Especially its 74 special seals that give it protection from weather and dust... If this brand came out a bit earlier in Cebu, I would have wanted to purchase the K200D. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by herp_doctor View Post
    Not to mention PENTAX is the only dslr on the market that offers weather resistance (splash, rain, mud, sand, temperature extremes)...

    really? are you sure about that? i don't want to say anything about SONY but the pic speaks a thousand words. here's the sample of torture test of SONY A900.










    A900 - first it tackled Antarctica, next the 2009 Dakar Race

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