what are reasons that....?

[rcruman]

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i disagree.

what's new with you? i don't expect or never in my wildest dream that you will agree.
keep on posting and reading.

Peace!

[rcruman]

it seems like you are wondering from the this thread where in fact you can read in the bible all the reasons behind this.

so what's your point on making this thread

for other people to re-consider about things in this life and most of all about GOD.

You can see their reply how they reacted.

Naa tay giingon, kinsay niputak maoy nangitlog.


Here's another thing, Choosing RELIGION/FAITH/BELIEF is like choosing movies,gadget,entertainment.

they choose it and at the same time considering entertainment and less burden.

Peace!

[rcruman]

wow. what about those crusaders who believed in God? how many people were murdered in the crusades during the middle ages - in the name of God? those believers are murderers.
and non believers are condemned - what about those atheists involved in humanitarian activities ?

they are misguided and served the False GOD.

then about those people who are doing GOOD even though they didn't know GOD:

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Romans 2:12-15


We all be judged according to our works not according to what we believes.

Peace!

[bisan-unsa]

then let us follow the bible, apostles warned us about this:

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
Galatians 1:8-10

so Christ commanded them to teach things being thought by CHRIST to them:
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Matthew 28:19-20

Some people say that they're are Christ (e.g. Quiboloy, Jesus Miranda of Mexico) so:
17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
John 7:17

you can compare if their doctrine is being thought by Apostles and Jesus Christ.
so if not then they're the false one.
Then if someone will say that they're JESUS CHRIST in you front then the more you wont believe them and the more you will believe the bible. Because Jesus Christ didn't come yet again here on earth:

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.

Peace!

ok... you mention about the apostles: how about judas (one of Christ apostles)? there is an speculation on the gospel of judas what can you say about it? can he still be reliable on his accounts?

[bisan-unsa]

I think you mean this:
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
matthew 7:21

Peace!

thanks..

what does it mean the will of my Father which is in heaven?

so there is a probability that one can be saved outside the church?

[gabstafari]

There are some people keep on denying GOD even though they hear about GOD.
There are people mocked GOD and mocked His words in the BIBLE.
They just read a portion and take it out of context then conclude as contradicitions (full of...).
There are people want GOD to appear to them physically and in fact they know that GOD is spirit.
They just simply conclude that there's no GOD because:

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
John 3:18-21

in order to be free from the LAW of GOd they just simply deny Him.

Peace!

why did Jesus still choosed judas to be his discipe?
why did Jesus still choosed peter, thomas,paul,augustine, etc.etc.etc.

it is very unfathomed. we cannot understand all this things nor understand Gods will until we come up to many questions, "BIG" questions.

[kit_cebu]

we never will understand anything until were dead... only when we die we can say there is something beyond this or just the cold earth that will rot our bodies after were dead...

[regnauld]

^ I understand bro in my mediation and silence that there is a DEEP MYSTERY in life and I am aware that we are more than our bodies. I know I have a body but I am not my body because if I cut accidentally both my hands, then I am no longer my real self for I have identified myself as a body. And yet I am more than this body. I have a Mind but I am not my mind because if I lost my mind due to depression and memory loss, then I am no longer my real self because I have identified myself as a mind. And yet I am more than my mind.

[regnauld]

5 Fallacies About God


1) Humans believe that God needs something.
2) Humans believe that God can fail to get what He needs.
3) Humans believe that God has separated them from Him because they have not given Him what He needs.
4) Humans believe that God still needs what He needs so badly that God now requires them, from their separated position, to give it to Him.
5) Humans believe that God will destroy them if they do not meet His requirements.



Neale Donald Walsch
The New Revelations

[Saint_hard]

some people can't understand because they wont understand and never would understand.