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[LytSlpr]

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could somebody please explain this to me like i am a 5 year old?!

di gyud ni sila interesado sa SRP uy, cross my heart. valid inquiry ra gyud ni para di ma-alkanse ang mga garcia, este, cebuano.


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At the Capitol, Sepulveda, citing Presidential Proclamation 200-A issued by former president Ferdinand Marcos, said they will write the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) to assert the Provincial Government’s “continued supervision” of the 595 foreshore hectares in Barangays San Nicolas, Pardo and Tangke in Talisay City.

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[giddyboy]

biased? because i cannot refute your so called evidences? as i've said this is not a court, biased propaganda may work but Istoryans are more intelligent than that they know that are rumors and what is the truth.
as the saying goes, "it's not what you know but what you can prove." fortunately this Istorya.Net and not a court of law. so what people know, in this venue HAS BEARING. get the point?

u r ryt. this forum may not be a court, but people here deserve opinions with facts and figures as bearing, and not some propagated hearsays and rumors. otherwise, we myt as well call this forum as "chismis.net"...LOLs

you may heard this a thousand times but in the Philippines, if you are in power you are the law. who would dare question those documents? si leo? si saavedra? dali ra kaayo na sila i-intimidate or worst iligpit. the problem sa philippines is people particularly the business sector, mohilom na lang basta di lang sila directly affected. mao bitaw ingon ana ng pilipinas kay ang common tao di mag unite unya mag hilom na lang.

yeah i heard that a thousand times. but making motherhood statements like that is in no way a good argument. mao2x rana sa squid tactics ni Tomas et al...LOLs

i could have a 1M project cost spend 500K and give a documentation for 1M, all legal.

easy for u to say. op kors, u could have a 1M project cost and spend only 500K and give a documentation for 1M. kana kung wa lage ka masakpi...saunz ang FLI deal nasakpan man. LOLs...dili man bogo ang COA or other independent watchdogs pre...

kung mag base ta sa imong textbook law sir, tanan project sa gobyerno even national projects WALAY TIKAS kay LEGAL GUD, RIGHT?!

No, u r wrong on my analogy there. kung legal and found out still to be legal after such investigations, then legally walay tikas.

But kung mag base ta sa imong PERCEPTION LAW sir, some would still assume naay tikas. Let's try to differentiate the two please. LOLs

The government is one big syndicate involved in racketeering and the congress is one big country club and that is as realistic as it gets.

The only realistic fact about ur statement is that it is a motherhood statement trying to distract us from the real topic. that is just a sour-graping ky ang imong manok nga opaw nasakspan man while ang sa pikas manok nga igat (assuming naay tikas) wala gayud bsan pa giunsa ug bali-bali...

that is as realistic as it gets...LOLs

I say this and i say this again: PJ's House inquiry is his legal right as a Cebuano and a taxpayer. Morally and politically speaking, that is debatable as some would say it is not and some would say it is. of course that totally depends on every person's perspective.

that is as realistic as it gets.

[LytSlpr]

u r ryt. this forum may not be a court, but people here deserve opinions with facts and figures as bearing, and not some propagated hearsays and rumors. otherwise, we myt as well call this forum as "chismis.net"...LOLs



yeah i heard that a thousand times. but making motherhood statements like that is in no way a good argument. mao2x rana sa squid tactics ni Tomas et al...LOLs



easy for u to say. op kors, u could have a 1M project cost and spend only 500K and give a documentation for 1M. kana kung wa lage ka masakpi...saunz ang FLI deal nasakpan man. LOLs...dili man bogo ang COA or other independent watchdogs pre...



No, u r wrong on my analogy there. kung legal and found out still to be legal after such investigations, then legally walay tikas.

But kung mag base ta sa imong PERCEPTION LAW sir, some would still assume naay tikas. Let's try to differentiate the two please. LOLs



The only realistic fact about ur statement is that it is a motherhood statement trying to distract us from the real topic. that is just a sour-graping ky ang imong manok nga opaw nasakspan man while ang sa pikas manok nga igat (assuming naay tikas) wala gayud bsan pa giunsa ug bali-bali...

that is as realistic as it gets...LOLs

I say this and i say this again: PJ's House inquiry is his legal right as a Cebuano and a taxpayer. Morally and politically speaking, that is debatable as some would say it is not and some would say it is. of course that totally depends on every person's perspective.

that is as realistic as it gets.

wa gyud ko'y arguement ana but let's backtrack a little bit, si tomas, wala pa masakpan, gi-imbestigahan pa.

now, for the nth time and for the benefit of cebu in general, we cannot stop PJ as a cebuano and taxpayer to question the project, it is his right. here's the thing though, it is tainted with retaliation and political color, the timing and the venue is questionable pa. since nag acting judge man si PJ ani, kung huwes pa siya dapat nagpa-inhibit siya para walay malisya iyang motive. whatever his motives are, yes he is entitled to his right but on a bigger perspective he should have done it in a more finesse, proper and even discreet manner for the long term benefit of Cebu but in my assumption since tagilid siya ana nga style or probably he knows huyang iyang basis, that is why he has to blab about it in congress.

this may be a sweeping generalization to a very textbook person like you but what PJ is doing is a game of shakedown, the game that street punks always play.

do you really think that PJ will pursue this in Congress if tomas will ease on Capitol? Think again! So as I have said, dili genuine iyang intentions and he is just unnecessarily making the SRP vulnerable and weak.

i know what you are driving at since from the start but as a more educated person and presumably the "better man" then he should have known better, get my point now?

at the end game, this is not about textbook law, this is about personal interest mao bitaw bisan naa pa'y legal loophole nga nasilip si PJ, wa gihapo'y yamo.

[giddyboy]

wa gyud ko'y arguement ana but let's backtrack a little bit, si tomas, wala pa masakpan, gi-imbestigahan pa.

OK i hear u. nya ngano paman mahibung pka nga given they are the political opposition, mka kita ug butas ang pikas, tirahon gyud na op kors. and vice versa.

now, for the nth time and for the benefit of cebu in general, we cannot stop PJ as a cebuano and taxpayer to question the project, it is his right. here's the thing though, it is tainted with retaliation and political color, the timing and the venue is questionable pa.

Retaliation and political color OK. that's already a given for the nth time. but why sour-grape on that when the other side is doing it also? they even are the ones who started it in the first place...wouldn't u want to question the timing on blocking the Ciudad project? wouldn't u question the blocking of the new CPPO bldg?

is blocking the Ciudad project benefitting Cebu? is blocking the new CPPO bldg benefitting Cebu? I don't think so. there lies the big difference from this shady FLI deal coz investigating the FLI deal whether or not there's anomaly or not means it will be good for Cebu in general.

and if u say this House investigation will mar the reputation of Cebu, don't blame PJ nor Capitol. blame Cebu City hall and FLI.

if City hall and FLI have done their part in ensuring a clean, unquestionable, and law-abiding deal, then they have nothing to worry about from the opposition.

as i said earlier, if there's smoke, don't blame the fireman.

kung ako ang pangutan-on bay, mas uwaw pa para nako ang megashabu, canister scandal, ug ang lamp post fiasco, kaysa anang House inquiry ni PJ. besides, do u really think Cebuanos are ashamed of that? perhaps what will be more shameful is if found out that the FLI deal is indeed anomalous. and NO, not the Cebuanos, but City hall and FLI ONLY!!!

coz if we say mka uuwaw ang FLI investigation ug angay nlng unta i-discreet and (w/ finesse?), it will be like saying "Ato lng ni discreet ang megashabu case ha ky uwaw kau para sa Cebu"...LOLs

my man, no matter unsay mga controversies dire Cebu bai, Cebu will always be Cebu. Cebu doesn't even need to polish or manipulate a fake reputation and image, just like u implied...

since nag acting judge man si PJ ani, kung huwes pa siya dapat nagpa-inhibit siya para walay malisya iyang motive. whatever his motives are, yes he is entitled to his right but on a bigger perspective he should have done it in a more finesse, proper and even discreet manner for the long term benefit of Cebu but in my assumption since tagilid siya ana nga style or probably he knows huyang iyang basis, that is why he has to blab about it in congress.

i think i want to differ on that. Yes, PJ's House inquiry might be considered w/ malice, no finesse, improper, etc. but still i believe the FLI issue has to be investigated in Congress...and it could be better if lain ang mo open sa complaint.

but what PJ is doing is a game of shakedown, the game that street punks always play.

of course it is a kind of shakedown. kay cya raba diay ang gahimo ana? what about Tomas? i even think Tomas is more street punk, and literally speaking pud...LOLs

do you really think that PJ will pursue this in Congress if tomas will ease on Capitol? Think again! So as I have said, dili genuine iyang intentions and he is just unnecessarily making the SRP vulnerable and weak.

wa ta kabalo bay. opposition baya na...what they think will be detrimental to the other side, they will push w/ it even how minor, especially when elections are just around the corner. same story vice versa.

nya for the nth time, it is not PJ nor Capitol who unnecessarily makes the SRP vulnerable and weak. It's City hall and FLI. They are the ones themselves to blame. They can't even give straight answers. (do u even know that it is also FLI that called Tomas a liar? whatdya think about that? LOLs)

i know what you are driving at since from the start but as a more educated person and presumably the "better man" then he should have known better, get my point now?

i believe he knows better...don't ever underestimate people like him.

i know what u r driving at. u want to imply here that the Garcias are the bad guys while Tomas is the good guy...i totally understand that. LOLs

at the end game, this is not about textbook law, this is about personal interest mao bitaw bisan naa pa'y legal loophole nga nasilip si PJ, wa gihapo'y yamo.

No. This is about legal loophole nga nasilip ni PJ mao btaw naay political interest thereafter...and because the questions raised against the deal are all valid, then his personal interest will become irrelevant...

This is also about power, privilege, and justice. matira lang ang matibay. that's the end game.

[godwhacker]

Wa man unta niy problema ug ni observar lang sila sa giingon nga "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". Di na unta ni maabut sa ingon ini nga panghitabu. What is happening now is "you kick my ass, sure, I'm gonna kick yours". Bawos, bawos lang na pero mora ug daghan man ug igu ron ang City Hall sa akong tan-aw. And seems to me that some of the councilors are getting fed up with Tomas' demands. Mao nga duna nay mga dissenting opinions ang uban nila. Duol naman gud election. It may create backlash nga kini dyud sila sobra ra pud kaayo ka sipsip, mao nga pa distancia ang uban. Tan-awa ilang ordinansa sa Friar lands sige lang ka delay or gituyo ug delay kay nagpanghadluk ug unsay balos sa Capitol. Way kahuman na hangtud way mapukan anang duha. So ma enjoy ko ug magsugod na ug kihaay.

[pridi]

they get disoriented kay dili man ma realize ang gusto ni tommy boi.... but if tomy will be replaced by somebody else, they will simply compare it with, "mas ok pa cguro jd kung c tomas...

[ritsche villadolid]

self interest ra gehapon, ana man gyud na ang politics dre sa atoa

[giddyboy]

Wa man unta niy problema ug ni observar lang sila sa giingon nga "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". Di na unta ni maabut sa ingon ini nga panghitabu. What is happening now is "you kick my ass, sure, I'm gonna kick yours". Bawos, bawos lang na pero mora ug daghan man ug igu ron ang City Hall sa akong tan-aw. And seems to me that some of the councilors are getting fed up with Tomas' demands. Mao nga duna nay mga dissenting opinions ang uban nila. Duol naman gud election. It may create backlash nga kini dyud sila sobra ra pud kaayo ka sipsip, mao nga pa distancia ang uban. Tan-awa ilang ordinansa sa Friar lands sige lang ka delay or gituyo ug delay kay nagpanghadluk ug unsay balos sa Capitol. Way kahuman na hangtud way mapukan anang duha. So ma enjoy ko ug magsugod na ug kihaay.

and that's as realistic as it gets...

sakto ka. "mora ug daghan man ug igu ron ang City Hall sa akong tan-aw. And seems to me that some of the councilors are getting fed up with Tomas' demands."

kung sa boksing pa na, ang city hall c dela Hoya, ang Capitol c Pacman. we will just wait and see if mka bawi ba c dela Hoya sa second bout...

ang cityhall naa na rbay bagong coach in the name of Rep del Mar...hehe it is a no surprise that he will try to defend cityhall about the FLI mess. di ba gi endorse man pud ni cya for mayor ni Tomas and his cabal BOPK?

[godwhacker]

ang cityhall naa na rbay bagong coach in the name of Rep del Mar...hehe it is a no surprise that he will try to defend cityhall about the FLI mess. di ba gi endorse man pud ni cya for mayor ni Tomas and his cabal BOPK?

When it serves Tomas' capricho humot niya ang tawo. So as of now, Rep. Del Mar smells very good. Just like how Mike smelled before they had spat. Pwerting humota kay masunod man iyang capricho. When Mike started acting stangely nga sa iyang feel mora cya gibudhi-an, mike suddenly smells as bad as a rotten fish. It is too early to tell how far Del Mar will play with Tomas whims and caprices. Pero akong tan-aw magka away ra gihapon ni sila unya once Del Mar feels that Tomas is squeezing his neck. That's Tummy boys style, way kaso bisag way silingan kay pirmeng ika-away ug tawo.

[LytSlpr]

Wa man unta niy problema ug ni observar lang sila sa giingon nga "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". Di na unta ni maabut sa ingon ini nga panghitabu. What is happening now is "you kick my ass, sure, I'm gonna kick yours". Bawos, bawos lang na pero mora ug daghan man ug igu ron ang City Hall sa akong tan-aw. And seems to me that some of the councilors are getting fed up with Tomas' demands. Mao nga duna nay mga dissenting opinions ang uban nila. Duol naman gud election. It may create backlash nga kini dyud sila sobra ra pud kaayo ka sipsip, mao nga pa distancia ang uban. Tan-awa ilang ordinansa sa Friar lands sige lang ka delay or gituyo ug delay kay nagpanghadluk ug unsay balos sa Capitol. Way kahuman na hangtud way mapukan anang duha. So ma enjoy ko ug magsugod na ug kihaay.

EXACTLY! Mao bitaw hilas ra kaayo si PJ magpalimpyo-effect mura baya ug wala sila'y mga transactions galing lang naa lagi sila aligutgot ni tomas. let's just say tinuod ang buslot ilang nakita ni tomas wala lagi sila'y moral authority and kahibaw man ta sa ilang motibo.

if PJ is doing this in the guise of the general welfare of the Cebuanos, we also know that this will go away if Tomas will make the Ciudad project among their other rifts, go away. so in short, puro ra ni negosyo and shakedown, sa mahulga lang.

but PJ bringing this to Congress is just too far regardless of his reason and motive kay ang tibuok Cebu ang ma-alaut ani. moreover, kung naa gyu'y ngipon inyang accusation, adto unta sa korte dili sige siya ug pa-pogi points iyang dangas ug lagum na nawong on nationwide TV.

be ready for another textbook explanation here...