MERGED: All About RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty/ VFA-MLSA and Related Issues

[Vince Russo]

talk is cheap... that's what politicians do... they tell things people like to hear.

and by the way... america never had a democracy.

And this in some way relates to the topic of the thread? Start a new thread. You can title it "How I view that evil place called America".. Hey, is grovestreet your first, or last name (and yes, talk IS cheap...especially when you hide your identity). I used to live on a Grove Street in democratic Berkeley, California. Hmmm.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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OT : The IRONY of all .... and the name ( GROVESTREET ) is so American lolz !!

[grovestreet]

haha ad hominem...

i'm sorry to criticize the good ol' usa.

they can train this country's soldiers to be efficient killing machines for all i care...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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Actually .... training soldiers are not for reasons limiting to war purposes only as killing macines but for peace keeping also. Are you aware of that ?

[bobbyb]

I feel great about their intervention.

There really is a need to kick the bandits butts... our military would never fight their ABU SAYAF business partners.

[vern]

@SPRING ... such are statements by people who sleep comfortably in their beds at night without knowing the cost of their comfortable lives in men and women. If they lived a few hundred years earlier, even a few decades or perhaps in another place (Israel perhaps?), they might have a different view of how strength keeps the peace.

When humanity stops acting on human nature, when pigs fly, then perhaps we will no longer need force to keep peace.

Ad hominem. lol, people always mention fallacies as reason that they are disagreed with when they can't just argue their point. That is a form of fallacy in itself.

[Dorothea]

Agree kaayo ko ani oi. If we can have Navy SEAL trained snipers, sus we can take out pirates that invade our waters easily.

[flanker]

@ FLANKER ....

Have read the news lately ? The one in Iraq whom a suicide bomber blasted the lives of 78 locals and oppressed the lives of hundreds of family members of the casualties ?

yes...

You don't have a clue to as to the big picture here. Go ahead and believe that the US is the only superpower who is concerned with where they will get the oil they need to survive in the future. You think that the US is making a monetary profit from the Iraq invasion? Wait til the next decade and see how tough things will get if (when) the oil sources dry up and it becomes dangerously scarce. Will the oil producing countries be kind and charitable with us? Boost production and cut prices? Get real. But what does the USA's role in Iraq have to do with the American Military in the RP? They are training and equipping YOUR military to help them better protect YOU. If they are not welcome by the majority of your countrymen, then they shouldn't be wasting their time here. The RP can choose who they align with in the future. It doesn't have to be the USA. See if there's a better offer out there, dude. Let's see... who would you ask to help your military out?

Lolz Im juz reacting sa imong "Democracy" thing..


As ive said in my last post.. i have nothing against the US forces here in PI...

I dont think there is a US intervention... mga advisers & trainers raman na cla..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ VERN ... I myself served 4 civil wars aboard the so called WAR MACHINES . In between that , if wala ang US , its probably more than 4 civil wars will be experienced by third world nations . To sum it up , there are peacekeeping going on in between it . Some people cant just see the reality of the big picture regarding the existence of the armed forces .

@ FLANKER .... so have you figure it out yet that acts of TERRORISM since VIOLENCE is so profound as a term that is why American troops are deployed ?

[flanker]

@ FLANKER .... so have you figure it out yet that acts of TERRORISM since VIOLENCE is so profound as a term that is why American troops are deployed ?

In Afghanistan yes.... but in Iraq that's not the main reason why US Troops been deployed...