On Devout Catholics

[The_Child]

when people are persecuted because their ideas are contrary to that of scripture, I'd call that intellectual stagnation. Wouldn't you?

when people look at history from hindsight, i call that Stagnation.


you know we could go on and on and on, im just saying, before people criticize, they must have thorough knowledge of what they are criticizing. haughtiness is never a virtue of a truth seeker.
well, im just precipitated to make these statements, because some people here, criticize with seeming malice, tapos, kuwang kaayo sa paghuna2x in regards to the topic, this is what mr. hellblazer is doing. im just trying to make my point.

[regnauld]

I think the catholic Church is learning her lessons especially from the past mistakes. That's why VATICAN II was introduced by Pope or Blessed John John XXIII in his encyclical letter entitled "Pacem In Terris" or Peace On Earth.

[The_Child]

I think the catholic Church is learning her lessons especially from the past mistakes. That's why VATICAN II was introduced by Pope or Blessed John John XXIII in his encyclical letter entitled "Pacem In Terris" or Peace On Earth.

perhaps. and i will not argue against it, because the CHurch did horrible things in the past, even though they were ideally intended for good ends.

[xiao-xiao]

when people look at history from hindsight, i call that Stagnation.


you know we could go on and on and on, im just saying, before people criticize, they must have thorough knowledge of what they are criticizing. haughtiness is never a virtue of a truth seeker.
well, im just precipitated to make these statements, because some people here, criticize with seeming malice, tapos, kuwang kaayo sa paghuna2x in regards to the topic, this is what mr. hellblazer is doing. im just trying to make my point.

[regnauld]

I was an ex seminarian and I would say that the church has slowly evolved. Yet, most of the teachings were Exoteric emphasizing on the Dogmas, Beliefs and Practices and not so much on INNER WISDOM!

[The_Child]

I was an ex seminarian and I would say that the church has slowly evolved. Yet, most of the teachings were Exoteric emphasizing on the Dogmas, Beliefs and Practices and not so much on INNER WISDOM!

as my theoretical physicist prof. would say, science is like the Church, it is conservative. DOgmas, Beliefs and Practices? im sure you did not realize that the central teaching is Love. Im not a seminarian, never have been, but i know that. What is the Assumption? Purgatorio? the Resurrection? et al, if not for God's Love to Men? that is the core teaching of the CHurch.

Why else do we need to venture out to other eccentric forms of 'knowledge' of reading peoples mind, of knowing where the right energy will flow, or the numerical madness that enshrouds the seen and the unseen, or the spiritual forces we could conjure, turning things to gold, of unity between what is out there or what is in here, is love not enough? well, whatever your answer is, that is yours. the point is, Christianity is love, we dont have to confuse it with all the high-falutin mumbo jumbo out there. its simlpy that, God became Man, died, rose again. Its about Love. of forgiving and hoping.

[regnauld]

as my theoretical physicist prof. would say, science is like the Church, it is conservative. DOgmas, Beliefs and Practices? im sure you did not realize that the central teaching is Love. Im not a seminarian, never have been, but i know that. What is the Assumption? Purgatorio? the Resurrection? et al, if not for God's Love to Men? that is the core teaching of the CHurch.

Why else do we need to venture out to other eccentric forms of 'knowledge' of reading peoples mind, of knowing where the right energy will flow, or the numerical madness that enshrouds the seen and the unseen, or the spiritual forces we could conjure, turning things to gold, of unity between what is out there or what is in here, is love not enough? well, whatever your answer is, that is yours. the point is, Christianity is love, we dont have to confuse it with all the high-falutin mumbo jumbo out there. its simlpy that, God became Man, died, rose again. Its about Love. of forgiving and hoping.

Before I forget the church is also emphasizing the Redemption of sin rather than on the beauty and dynamic of man's creation or the evolution of his consciousness. Have you heard of the theologian Matthew Fox and the great Jesuit Priest Teilhard de Chadin?

[schmuck]

Why else do we need to venture out to other eccentric forms of 'knowledge' of reading peoples mind, of knowing where the right energy will flow, or the numerical madness that enshrouds the seen and the unseen, or the spiritual forces we could conjure, turning things to gold, of unity between what is out there or what is in here

I strongly agree with this! then I lost you after this part...

[regnauld]

as my theoretical physicist prof. would say, science is like the Church, it is conservative. DOgmas, Beliefs and Practices? im sure you did not realize that the central teaching is Love. Im not a seminarian, never have been, but i know that. What is the Assumption? Purgatorio? the Resurrection? et al, if not for God's Love to Men? that is the core teaching of the CHurch.

Why else do we need to venture out to other eccentric forms of 'knowledge' of reading peoples mind, of knowing where the right energy will flow, or the numerical madness that enshrouds the seen and the unseen, or the spiritual forces we could conjure, turning things to gold, of unity between what is out there or what is in here, is love not enough? well, whatever your answer is, that is yours. the point is, Christianity is love, we dont have to confuse it with all the high-falutin mumbo jumbo out there. its simlpy that, God became Man, died, rose again. Its about Love. of forgiving and hoping.

Yes Love is the answer and you don't need a lot of dogmas and rituals to realize the power of love. What do you think?

BTW, the real authority is not the church outside but INSIDE -WITHIN man.

[Fern]

For the Empire!