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    Quote Originally Posted by joshua259 View Post
    free masons didn't need the bible and yet they are powerful.
    nganong na-apil man ang mga Freemasons sir?

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    just because mas karaan ang katoliko, doesn't mean na proven na. yuna ra, yuna ra, proven in what aspect sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    nganong na-apil man ang mga Freemasons sir?
    his talking about power sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    on my own comprehension, no, on your part yes.
    pero let's not dwell on that.. ot na kau

    my point is: so mas orig ang protestant nga doctrine just because it was not baised by human judgement? dili diay ta mo-base sa kinsya mas karaan? mas proven?
    Dili man siguro seniority ang basihan sir if we talk of Religios Doctrine .... it just happen lang nga Protestant is basing Authority on the Bible.

    Romans 13:1-2 (New American Standard Bible)

    Romans 13
    Be Subject to Government
    1Every (A)person is to be in (B)subjection to the governing authorities For (C)there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
    2Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

    So therefore any Doctrine which is not from God is questionable, but i think Vatican is more Authorized than which is written in the Bible mao na puede sila ka buhat ug unbiblical doctrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    your are using your Metaphor wrongly ...
    how would you know na he was using it wrongly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    just because mas karaan ang katoliko, doesn't mean na proven na. yuna ra, yuna ra, proven in what aspect sir?
    i thought you are proven when your institute survives racial and national wars and many other ridiculous behaviors by it's members; in what aspect? every aspect deemed possible on the prospective views of a believer. then it won't matter on those who don't or lacks faith.
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Dili man siguro seniority ang basihan sir if we talk of Religios Doctrine .... it just happen lang nga Protestant is basing Authority on the Bible.

    Romans 13:1-2 (New American Standard Bible)

    Romans 13
    Be Subject to Government
    1Every (A)person is to be in (B)subjection to the governing authorities For (C)there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
    2Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

    So therefore any Doctrine which is not from God is questionable, but i think Vatican is more Authorized than which is written in the Bible mao na puede sila ka buhat ug unbiblical doctrine.
    so the protestants based their authority on the bible and not from God?
    rc doctrine is not from God? but it was drafted from the bible so the bible is not from God?

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    ang christianity breakaway from judaism, then na split into so many sects and "churches." ang orthodox ug ang vatican-based RC nag buwag. sa reformation ang "protestants" mi buwag sa RC, sa pinas si aglipay naghimog iyang grupo...and so and so forth. ana gyud nang religion..puros na lang mo claim nga maoy sakto, dapig diri, saway didto, buwag sa grupo, himog bag-o...

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard96 View Post
    ang christianity breakaway from judaism, then na split into so many sects and "churches." ang orthodox ug ang vatican-based RC nag buwag. sa reformation ang "protestants" mi buwag sa RC, sa pinas si aglipay naghimog iyang grupo...and so and so forth. ana gyud nang religion..puros na lang mo claim nga maoy sakto, dapig diri, saway didto, buwag sa grupo, himog bag-o...
    hahaha mura man ka og ni kanta ana bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    how would you know na he was using it wrongly?
    just like poems murdered by different people, it's based wholly on the reader's discretion. he thinks i used it wrongly, you may also do. but what i meant it for was totally right on my view.

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    it survived because it murdered millions of "heretics" or those who were against them. remember the Albigensian Crusade? "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out." And it was all in the glory of God. sweet.

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