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  1. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by rey04 View Post
    bantayan people should move their fiesta to another date other than the holy week kay controversial ra kaayu nang pitsaha.

    for gwen, i think super duper ka conservative ra kaayu. ang kanang beauty contest bisan asa naa jud nang swimsuit competition. she should take it to the national level if she wants to impose her conversatism than isolate cebuanos of the situation. i think this woman should have been traumatize when she was a kid kay hate jud kaayu niya nga bugalbugalan ang babae bisan wala gud....IMO lang
    Sakto imo logic bai pero ingna ko ug bakakon kung ang BAKASYONISTA sa BANTAYAN ISLAND ang Katoliko wala naka abot ug 80% sa population .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  2. #82

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    fiesta man kaha sa bantayan?? give them a break....

    like springfield said. wala ka abot 80% sa mga tao nga mo adto sa bantayan... kai mag sakripisyo...

    so kung mag bikini open d.i diha sa bantayan.... maka sala mong mga loyal catholics nga wala mo tan-aw?

    I think not....

    let me give you a scenario...

    Boy nagpakatoto-o: Bai... adto ta sa bantayan nah.... party tah... sus law-ay kaau sa balay kung holy week uy....

    Boy nagpa as if: Bitaw nah... tara adto tah....

    At Bantayan....

    Boy nagpakatoto-o: Hala... naa lagi bikini open?? murag lingaw ni da... tan-aw ta nah...

    Boy nagpa as if: Huh? ka byernes santo rong daku..... dili ta ana uy... maka sala tas gino-o ana...
    samai kalahi-an anang bikini open ug sa MGA NAGLAKAW LAKAW diri sa bantayan??
    lingkod lang ta diri... mura naman pud tag ga tan-aw ug bikini open... libre pah..
    huwat huwat lang haap....

    oooops tu-ara...... di-a pah...

    Boy nagpakatoto-o: Plastikag pangutok nimu uy...... pa as if maka sala pa kunohai....



    LOLs.....

  3. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    Sakto imo logic bai pero ingna ko ug bakakon kung ang BAKASYONISTA sa BANTAYAN ISLAND ang Katoliko wala naka abot ug 80% sa population .


    i think she has not focused to religion but quoted a law about obscenity and decency. Sakto ang law but too shallow to follow coz the national level is not following it. Nanaway bitaw xa sa wowowee but dili kadut coz national naman na. Makuninitan xa sa mga liberals kung manghilabot xa. She is just too f***n conservative.

  4. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage963 View Post
    im a catholic pero ako sang g.huna2x ang uban tawo, kay dili tanan nag puyo sa pilipinas roman catholic og mo tu.o og semana santa!!!


    i think gwen garcia when she was young had a traumatic experience wearing a bikini!!!

    what is law.ay, bastos?

    law-ay or bastos for you maybe not law.ay for other people...

    kinsa man himu.on natog basihan para e.judge kung law.ay nah

    si gwen garcia?? so sya mosulti kana law-ay, kana dili, kana law-ay, limpyuha gud niyag tan-aw sa iyang kaugalingon...
    rage963 has a very good point here. Though the Governor may have a christian and moral reason but this is not the right way to handle this and she should know her limitations in creating such kinds of laws. Pareha lang unta nila ug Dubai, you can wear bikini but kung na a "bati" intention nabuhat, grabe pud ang fine and penalty.

  5. #85

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    Updates

    Video belies Bantayan bikini show raps: organizer | Sun.Star Network Online

    CEBU Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia made good her threat to sue the persons responsible for staging a bikini show in Bantayan Island during the Lenten weekend.
    She filed yesterday a criminal complaint before the Office of the Provincial Prosecutor against event organizer Elton Tio and Rommel Solomon, owner of the resort where the show was staged, for what she described as a “shockingly indecent, vulgar and obscene” show.

    The bikini show was held on the evening of Good Friday and lasted until dawn of Black Saturday.
    In the complaint she filed in her capacity as governor, Garcia said that Tio and Solomon violated Article 201 of the Revised Penal Code.
    She also said the two violated Chapter 2, Article 2, Section 19 (pornographic and indecent shows) of the Women’s Development Code of Cebu.
    Article 201 states that the penalty of imprisonment of six years and one day to 12 years, or a fine ranging from P6,000 to P12,000, shall be imposed upon “those who…exhibit indecent or immoral… shows, it being understood that the obscene…show, whether live or in film, shall include those which…satisfy the market for violence, lust or pornography…or are contrary to law, public order, morals, good customs, established policies, lawful orders, decrees, and edicts.”
    The Women’s Development Code of Cebu states that “beauty contests which tend to commodify, abuse, humiliate and treat women as *** objects shall be strictly prohibited in schools, communities and barangays.”
    Tio, however, told Sun.Star Cebu in a separate interview that their fashion show last Black Saturday did not feature bikini-clad women.
    Video
    Tio said he had footage of the entire show, which lasted around 30 to 45 minutes. He added that he plans to speak with Governor Garcia and show her the footage of the entire show.
    He admitted that some partygoers may have climbed onstage after the show but he assured that his staff kept on calling their attention and asking them to move.
    “Nisaad ko sa governor ug nisaad ko sa pari nga wala’y magbikini sa show (I promised the governor and the priest that the show would not feature bikini-clad women),” Tio said. He added that he did not break his promise.
    Tio claimed that Sta. Fe parish priest Isidrito Ducao II even sent some members of his church to see to it that no one will appear onstage clad in bikinis.
    He added that during the entire show, nobody came up to stop the show and he presumed that everything was in order.
    Maui too?
    After the show, Tio explained that everyone was dancing, even the spectators, some of whom were clad in bikinis.
    Aside from filing her complaint, Garcia also ordered Provincial Attorney Marino Martinquilla to identify other persons, including sponsors and promoters, responsible for the staging of the bikini show.
    She also hinted at impleading model Paolo Paraiso and actresses Maui Taylor and Jennifer Lee to serve as a warning to others who may also want to take part in a similar show.
    “Under the Revised Penal Code, they (show participants) are just as guilty…Gusto mong magsabog nianang inyong biga, ngadto mo sa laing probinsiya. Daku na kaayo mo’g kadaot nahimo ngari (If these people want to display their libido, they can do that in another province. They’ve done too much damage here),” she said.
    “Rest assured that I will use all resources at my disposal to find out the identities of these personalities. Furthermore, I will not stop at this. I will also not hesitate to use all powers vested in me so that all those responsible will brought to court and meted the proper punishment,” an exasperated Garcia told a press conference.
    Garcia had compelled Sta. Fe and police officials tasked to implement the order to explain why they should not be implicated in the complaint.
    Formal deal
    Sta. Fe Police Chief Rolando Evalle submitted a report on the activities yesterday morning.
    Evalle said that Tio met with Sta. Fe Vice Mayor Adoracion Cabrera, four municipal councilors, Fr. Ducao and himself last April 8.
    In that meeting, Evalle said they agreed that the fashion show would feature “formal attire” instead of skimpy swimwear.
    He echoed Tio’s statement about Fr. Ducao sending some representatives to the show to make sure no bikinis will be featured.
    “Hangtod karon, wala man mutawag si Fr. Ducao nako. Nagtuo ko nga wala siya’y reklamo sa gipahigayon nga show (Fr. Ducao hasn’t called me until now, so I thought he had no complaints about the show),” Evalle told reporters in a separate interview.
    Calls to Fr. Ducao yesterday were unanswered.
    “Daghan ang nagbikini pero didto ra sa ubos. Naa man gud ta sa beach so expected nga naa gyud na ang magsul-ob ug bikini (There were a lot of people in bikinis downstairs, on the beach),” Evalle said.
    Beach wear
    Supt. Erson Digal, commander of Task Force Igmat in Bantayan Island, said he noticed the first part of the show but noted that the models and some celebrities were not wearing bikinis but “short shorts” and some accessories that covered the bikinis.
    The party, dubbed as “Summer Pump,” was not a contest but a fashion show featuring swimwear modeled by local celebrities.
    “Naa’y daghan nagbikini, pero naa sila sa dagat ug sa beach, gapaso-paso. Dili na sad angay dakpon kay beach gud na (There were people in bikinis strolling on the beach, and there was no need to arrest them),” he explained. He added that there were women clad in bikinis selling cigarettes but they did not get up onstage.
    However, he said his personnel did not stay at the resort the whole time because they had to patrol other resorts as well.
    During her press conference yesterday, Garcia clarified that in her executive order, she did not actually ban the wearing of bikinis but shows that tend to “commodify” women.
    “The (Provincial Women’s Development) Code specifically prohibits such shows which degrade women, shows which clearly and obviously, beyond any doubt, go beyond the bounds of decency,” she said.
    ‘Kabastosan’
    She also showed GMA 7’s Balitang Bisdak newscast last Monday about the show’s scantily-clad participants making “suggestive moves.”
    “What I just saw was clearly indecent…It’s not about the bikinis, it’s about indecency. It’s about transgression of public
    morals. It’s all about kabastosan,” she said.
    Garcia also countered the claim of Sta. Fe Councilor Roger Ilustrisimo, husband of Mayor Jennifer Ilustrisimo, that they have not yet received a copy of her executive order.
    The governor said the Sta. Fe municipal hall received a fax copy of her order last April 7 at 4:38 p.m.
    Garcia will meet today with all Sta. Fe municipal officials, Cebu Provincial Police Director Carmnelo Valmoria and local policemen to discuss “the matter of desecration of both womanhood and worse, of the Holy Week commemoration itself.”
    Garcia said also she would call for further amendments to the Women’s Code “in order to address the proliferation these indecent and pornographic shows in the Province of Cebu.”
    naa d.i si Maui Taylor ug Jennifer Lee dd2

  6. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcduaneski View Post
    @mak83: The Philippines is NOT a Catholic Country, although its inhabitants are primarily Catholic, it does not mean that the Government or the Country is catholic.
    majority of the people living in the Philippines are Catholic, that makes the Philippines a Catholic country. don't take it so literally.

  7. #87

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    There has been other threads explaining the why murag "fiesta" ang Holy Week sa Bantayan.

    People who keeps on calling it a fiesta are either totally ignorant or stupid to understand.

    And adding another fact all beauty pageant and bikini shows during holy week before were formally petitioned by the parishes to be canceled when they held the very first beauty pageant 6 or 8 years ago. and every year that petition was submitted to the sta. fe mayors which seems to fall to deaf ears. And last year there was an article that mayor of sta fe stating that he would ban any bikini show for holy week but the show went ahead.

  8. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcduaneski View Post
    para nako lang, this executive order nga gi pass ni gov. Garcia is a violation of the constitution

    art.3 sec 4 . No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances.

    Art.3 sec 5 . No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever be allowed. No religious test shall be required for the exercise of civil or political rights.

    The first section is clear nga no law shall be passed abridging the freedom of expression, which could apply to bikini contests. I don't condemn nor do i condone bikini contests because i believe people have the right to do what they want as long as it does no harm to me. And even if i am a catholic i am not actually harmed by them having a bikini contest. I am not harmed because they are having this contest in the proper place, in the beach. Where else should a bikini contest be held if not at the beach? If sa church ni sila nag contest then naa nay problema pero they are holding these events in the proper place man sad. Ang-ang mag winter clothing contest sila sa dagat diba.

    The second section is up to you whether you choose to believe that the law was made under the pressure and influence of the church. If you believe it was, then it basically means that the executive order was passed to respect an establishment of religion. It basically says that even if you are not catholic, you are required to observe our lenten season. The fact that it prohibits these contests during holy week tells me that it is an infringement on the doctrine of separation of church and state.

    Ang uban kay ni-ingon nga respeto lang sad unta sila. And i agree, but do we respect their religious holidays? Edil fidr? Ramadan? Yom kipur? Etc.. Do we act solemnly during these times? Edil fidr is a national holiday, dili ba ta mangadto ug beach ani nga time? And i don't think respect is a legal requisite for holidays. Sure i may be a little insulted but i dont try to force my morality on other people. And besides, na-affected ba ang holy week tungod ani? Wala ba nadayon ang holy week tungod ani? Holy week was still celebrated, so how did they affect holy week?

    @mak83: The philippines is not a catholic country, although its inhabitants are primarily catholic, it does not mean that the government or the country is catholic.

    @rodsky: (page 1) "sa ato pa, ang tawo, pwede mag binastos, ayaw lang sobra ka bastos. *shakes head* double standards."
    or ayaw lang bag binastos ani nga particular time. Sakto ka bai.

    @giddyboy: (page 1) "hmmmm. What about those almost naked dancers in wowowee? Aren't they supposed to violate something too?"
    sakto sad gyud ka ani bai, sayang lang wala sa jurisdiction ni gov. Garcia ang wowowee.


    Usa sad, how do you think this will affect the resort owners income? This is one opportunity for them to earn money, which means that if they earn money they are able to employ people, which means ang mga tao ngadto kay naay trabaho. Of course i'm not saying nga mu-down ila business kung ma ban/restrict ang ingon ani nga mga contests, pero maka affect gihapon ni sa ila bottom line.

    @penigabz: You say nga walay mga respeto sila sa ato kahulugan, pero do you think they do it on purpose? Or are they just minding their own business? Has their activitiy in any way diminished the meaning of holy week for you? What about the bars and strip joints nga open inig holy week? Why dont i hear you speaking out against them?

    @joshua259: "para nako dili lang ni eban ang bikini open. Pero ayaw lang sad ibutang sa mga adlaw nga atong isaulog ang ginoo. "
    diba bai ang teaching sa ato simbahan kay everyday ato dapat isaulog ang ginoo? So unsa man imo pasabot ani bai?

    @sol_itaire: "this province should be able to accommodate people of different lifestyles. Respetaray lang." i think it already does, diba.

    @gospelof roch: "we dont need holy week just to celebrate the death of jesus, every day is a celebration of happiness/sacrifice/pain religious or not."
    i agree gyud ani bai, if mag bikini open sila then let them do it, its supposed to be a free country afterall.


    To the organizers, beach club owners, etc.. Who are being threatened with civil action, take that opportunity to question the constitutionality of the executive order issued by gov. Garcia, put her on the defensive side of the argument.
    nagpasabot lang na ganahan ka ug mga malaw-ay na pasundayag kay nangugat man kang pistiha ka!!!!

  9. #89

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    "Pistiha" ....hmmmm, name calling from a "righteous" and "morally upright" iStoryan? Clap clap clap

    -RODION

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    "Pistiha" ....hmmmm, name calling from a "righteous" and "morally upright" iStoryan? Clap clap clap

    -RODION
    Yah!!!!!Right!!!!!

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