Is Death the End?

[Hellblazer 2.1]

i said that same thing myself.

[Ramini]

hehe!!...a lot of people are really scared that death MIGHT be the End..If it's the END then you'll never know..that's why it's called THE END...so why worry

[regnauld]

hehe!!...a lot of people are really scared that death MIGHT be the End..If it's the END then you'll never know..that's why it's called THE END...so why worry

The END is also THE BEGINNING! For every GOODBYE, there is always a HELLO and for every HELLO there is always a GOODBYE! So, everything is just a CYCLE!

[Ramini]

it's a great reassurance reg...that's very optimistic of you..and i can safely assume that you'll never face or entertain the idea that the end might just be the end..right?...for all the good stuff or bad stuff that we say about death we can never be so sure..unless someone came back from death to tell us that it's really the end or there is something new after death

[miyay]

we have souls that live on after our bodies die, that much i know. but as to where and how, i don't know. but i'm excited to find out, someday

[regnauld]

it's a great reassurance reg...that's very optimistic of you..and i can safely assume that you'll never face or entertain the idea that the end might just be the end..right?...for all the good stuff or bad stuff that we say about death we can never be so sure..unless someone came back from death to tell us that it's really the end or there is something new after death

This is not a theory Ramini. Are you aware of CLINICAL DEATH EXPERIENCE of so of many people? Only a doctor can confirm that a person is dead and yet many people come back to life. Are you aware of this Mr. Ramini?

[Ramini]

yeah...im aware of it..and what's the common religious denomination of these people?..christians?..hmm that explains..in my opinion..death or the end..will depend on what you believed in when you were still alive..i have faith in the power of the mind..perhaps when you die or when i die we'll have different endings..depending on what your mind was conditioned to believe when it will die..where it will go..what it will encounter..it all depends on you..in the end you're still the writer of your own last chapter..if you want to go to heaven then heaven it is..naa rana nmo reg..

[regnauld]

yeah...im aware of it..and what's the common religious denomination of these people?..christians?..hmm that explains..in my opinion..death or the end..will depend on what you believed in when you were still alive..i have faith in the power of the mind..perhaps when you die or when i die we'll have different endings..depending on what your mind was conditioned to believe when it will die..where it will go..what it will encounter..it all depends on you..in the end you're still the writer of your own last chapter..if you want to go to heaven then heaven it is..naa rana nmo reg..

I am not talking about religion here Ramini. I'm talking about The PHENOMENON of CLINICAL DEATH as an EXPERIENCE. It has nothing to do with one's religious beliefs. This is a SCIENTIFIC FACT.

You might try to researh the work of Dr. Raymond Moody, the pioneer in NDE and CLINICAL DEATH Research.

[Ramini]

hehe..there you go again with your author of this and spiritual leader of that...yeah reg..i know what your going to..anyway i read his list of 9 common experiences of people who have had near death experiences and based on it..i can assume that religion had influence in the 9 list..it is still goes down to what your religious background is..hopefully iyaha unta gi diversify ang iyang mga test subjects to the deeply devout to the anti theistic or extremely pessimistic people who doesn't give a rat's a$$ on what's gonna happen to them if they die..then we'll see if the list will still be consistent..well in terms of the religious part..death and religion is strangely connected..to some religion death is only the beginning to some a way of redemption and to some wla na jd..as in game over..if only we could experiment on a wild man who's never had contact with any religion who's about to die and a man who has a religion either devout or not..i guess lahi jd ang labas..what im trying to say here is that..we can never be sure of what will become of us when we die..we can never entirely rely on any doctor that has researched death or trying to have a unfying explanation of what will happen when we die and come back or whatever..death or THE END of life is just what our minds conceived when thought about it when were still alive..either from our religion or our personal choices..if there is god and he looks like an a big fork..then surely he'd manifest in every near death experience as a big fork in every person regardless if he didn't believe in god, has a different concept of god, or who think god is a big spoon..so my stand is...religion plays a crucial role in person's view of death..and i think a near death experience can never be unified to have this or that experience that is applicable to all people regardless of faith, social background or gender.. so i can't agree with you that it has nothing to do with one's religious beliefs

[regnauld]

hehe..there you go again with your author of this and spiritual leader of that...yeah reg..i know what your going to..anyway i read his list of 9 common experiences of people who have had near death experiences and based on it..i can assume that religion had influence in the 9 list..it is still goes down to what your religious background is..hopefully iyaha unta gi diversify ang iyang mga test subjects to the deeply devout to the anti theistic or extremely pessimistic people who doesn't give a rat's a$$ on what's gonna happen to them if they die..then we'll see if the list will still be consistent..well in terms of the religious part..death and religion is strangely connected..to some religion death is only the beginning to some a way of redemption and to some wla na jd..as in game over..if only we could experiment on a wild man who's never had contact with any religion who's about to die and a man who has a religion either devout or not..i guess lahi jd ang labas..what im trying to say here is that..we can never be sure of what will become of us when we die..we can never entirely rely on any doctor that has researched death or trying to have a unfying explanation of what will happen when we die and come back or whatever..death or THE END of life is just what our minds conceived when thought about it when were still alive..either from our religion or our personal choices..if there is god and he looks like an a big fork..then surely he'd manifest in every near death experience as a big fork in every person regardless if he didn't believe in god, has a different concept of god, or who think god is a big spoon..so my stand is...religion plays a crucial role in person's view of death..and i think a near death experience can never be unified to have this or that experience that is applicable to all people regardless of faith, social background or gender.. so i can't agree with you that it has nothing to do with one's religious beliefs

What if I'll show to you that there were patients who died and who were not influenced by their religions or don't even believe in GOD? Are you willing to accept it? Mr. Ramini, religion and science just confirmed the fact that there is LIFE after death. Your belief and opinion is just an obsolete one. Can you destroy CONSCIOUSNESS, MIND and ENERGY Mr. Ramini? Coz if not, then LIFE is ETERNAL. Who am I going to believe? You or these scientists and patients who died and came back to life?