The Ancient Wisdom

[The_Child]

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I cannot always use REASON for it binds me - for words are just limiting and mental processes are so abstract that it cannot always be equated with TRUTH. It's always RELATIVE in the end. There is no ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

For entertainment purposes, we can play words but we are still stuck with out mental indigestion and constipation.

im sorry sir, i wouldnt even consider this as word play.

there is no connection with statement 1: "mental processes are so abstract..." with statement 2: it is always relative..." and statement 3: "there is no Absolute truth"

words are limited but they are not an excuse for the inability to express mental abstractions. (speech-mind theory) by saying "equated with Truth" you already assume there is mental abstraction that is Truth which you just expressed with the text "Truth" isnt that a contradiction to your statement?

we are not stuck in mental indigestion, we are just just seeing an intellectual juggling infront of us.

[josephdc]

Thinking outside the box has a GREAT VALUE. Being ILLOGICAL and LOGICAL are ONE of the same coin. Its like LOGIC vs. EMOTIONS. You cannot have one without the other. The challenge is always to transcend and go beyond LOGIC! Transcendence is the key!

Thinking outside the box certainly is good, and so is using one's emotions. But being illogical is somehow different, because it means the opposite of being logical, whereas when we use our emotions or our creativity we're not necessarily violating our rational faculties.

[regnauld]

im sorry sir, i wouldnt even consider this as word play.

there is no connection with statement 1: "mental processes are so abstract..." with statement 2: it is always relative..." and statement 3: "there is no Absolute truth"

words are limited but they are not an excuse to express mental abstractions. (speech-mind theory) by saying "equated with Truth" you already assume there is mental abstraction that is Truth which you just expressed with the text "Truth" isnt that a contradiction to your statement?

we are not stuck in mental indigestion, we are just just seeing an intellectual juggling infront of us.

If I would ask you what is TRUTH for you?

[regnauld]

Thinking outside the box certainly is good, and so is using one's emotions. But being illogical is somehow different, because it means the opposite of being logical, whereas when we use our emotions or our creativity we're not necessarily violating our rational faculties.

When you fall in love does it still fall under LOGIC? When someone falls in love you are suffering from temporary insanity according to one psychologist!

[The_Child]

then i would tell you, why do you assume that there is Truth in the first place?

[regnauld]

then i would tell you, why do you assume that there is Truth in the first place?

You are not telling me your TRUTH but rather you are asking a question. What is TRUTH for you sire?

[josephdc]

Is truth really relative, though? Are there no absolute truths?

"Truth is relative. There are no absolute truths."

If it is true that truth is relative, then the above statement can't be true.

[The_Child]

When you fall in love does it still fall under LOGIC? When someone falls in love you are suffering from temporary insanity according to one psychologist!

although the subject's thinking may be compromise it does not mean the phenomenon of falling in love is inexplainable in terms of reason. A cognitive scientist would tell you, its a series of biochemical reactions that could be simulated by eating large amounts of chocolate.

[josephdc]

When you fall in love does it still fall under LOGIC? When someone falls in love you are suffering from temporary insanity according to one psychologist!

Hehehe... Temporary insanity? I would agree. But I'm not necessarily being illogical, right? I mean, I'm still in touch with my cognitive faculties. I'm not really crazy, at least not clinically, but I would be using the word "crazy" as an expression of how I feel. But my feelings are still perfectly reasonable.

[regnauld]

although the subject's thinking may be compromise it does not mean the phenomenon of falling in love is inexplainable in terms of reason. A cognitive scientist would tell you, its a series of biochemical reactions that could be simulated by eating large amounts of chocolate.

You are right according to your POV! Does that diminish the concept of love as a spiritual aspect? NO!