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    Salvation Through Good Works

    "Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved." Pg. 222, #837

    Mao ni sakto sa Bible :

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9

    "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" Titus 3:5

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Salvation Through the Church -

    "The Second Vatican Council's Decree on Ecumenism explains: 'For it is through Christ's Catholic Church alone, which is the universal help toward salvation, that the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained.'" Pg. 215, #816

    Ingon ang Bible

    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:13

    Si dili diay ang Roman Catholic Church but upon the name of the Lord diay.

    Jesus preached:

    "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life…" John 5:24

    "He that believeth on me hath everlasting life." John 6:47
    lol
    poor guy another mislead bible reader. you read the bible and you think you know everything.
    those verses you gave are too immature as proofs; listen to yourself will you? learn to look deeper into the words you read and spoke yourself. there is so much more than the words themselves present upon reading.

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    The Church Forgive Sins

    "There is no offense, however serious, that the Church cannot forgive." Pg. 256, #982
    "By Christ's will, the Church possesses the power to forgive the sins of the baptized..." Pg. 257, #986

    "The Church, who through the bishop and his priests forgives sins in the name of Jesus Christ..." Pg. 363-364, #1448

    Ang Scripture nag Ingon :

    "Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?" Mark 2:7

    "And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." Ephesians 4:32

    Ingon ang Scripture Go Stragiht to Him :
    "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." Hebrews 4:16

    Naa pa daghan ani kini lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Salvation Through Good Works

    "Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved." Pg. 222, #837

    Mao ni sakto sa Bible :

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9

    "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" Titus 3:5
    your starting to sound like the add's sir; with respect to them i think they are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    The Church Forgive Sins

    "There is no offense, however serious, that the Church cannot forgive." Pg. 256, #982
    "By Christ's will, the Church possesses the power to forgive the sins of the baptized..." Pg. 257, #986

    "The Church, who through the bishop and his priests forgives sins in the name of Jesus Christ..." Pg. 363-364, #1448

    Ang Scripture nag Ingon :

    "Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?" Mark 2:7

    "And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." Ephesians 4:32

    Ingon ang Scripture Go Stragiht to Him :
    "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." Hebrews 4:16

    Naa pa daghan ani kini lang.
    lol yeah you'd better keep it yourself cause it will fall on deaf ears. solid catholic deaf ears that is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    lol
    poor guy another mislead bible reader. you read the bible and you think you know everything.
    those verses you gave are too immature as proofs; listen to yourself will you? learn to look deeper into the words you read and spoke yourself. there is so much more than the words themselves present upon reading.
    Unsa may Proof nimo bro nga ang Roman Catholic Church ang maka save sa tawo .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Unsa may Proof nimo bro nga ang Roman Catholic Church ang maka save sa tawo .......
    sir, what proof do you have that we can't?
    Last edited by handsoff241; 04-01-2009 at 05:01 PM. Reason: words

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    lol yeah you'd better keep it yourself cause it will fall on deaf ears. solid catholic deaf ears that is...
    wa pakumahuman .....

    Im not here to Attack the Roman Catholic but the Doctrine Created By Vatican.

    Just informing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    wa pakumahuman .....

    Im not here to Attack the Roman Catholic but the Doctrine Created By Vatican.

    Just informing.
    well sir, attacking the doctrines created by vatican is attacking the roman catholic church. why would we be a church if we are not govern by the doctrines created by men with the will and guidance of God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    wa pakumahuman .....

    Im not here to Attack the Roman Catholic but the Doctrine Created By Vatican.

    Just informing.
    padayon bro.. walay mo babag nimo diri...

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