the prodigal son

[juan_carlos]

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@regnauld what significance would it make sir? hehehe

@TS im gonna listen, since im big fan of this parable, and heard only sermons for additional explanation, i would gladly listen to that 3 1-hour parts. (hope i wont get bored)

thats great man. let me know what u think of it after u hear it. im curious as to your input.

[necrotic freak]

actually a prodigal father.

[handsoff241]

actually a prodigal father.

nice one bro it made me laugh

@TS i just heard the first part, as you've said, from the 3 part recording. i found it overwhelmingly detailed. and sure did it opened my eyes to some knowledge i roughly knew before.

[munzter666]

roughly translated bagag face nga anak.

[handsoff241]

roughly translated bagag face nga anak.

hey! i agree

[forever_sessionist]

Walay story "The Prodigal Daughter?"

hahaha lolzzz naa part wala lang masuwat

[josephdc]

You do not understand my point.

This is why a lot of religious parents have spoiled brats.
(Mayor Fernandez for example).
It is because of this specific parable.

This parable teaches parents to be forgiving.

But in the real world, forgiveness is not enough.

There should be punishment too-- after forgiveness.

There should be a Consequence to every action good or bad.
That is justice.

With out a sense of justice in the family, in the country or in this world.
We could never have peace.

I do agree. For there to be forgiveness, there must also be justice.

But I think what Jesus wanted mainly to emphasize in the parable was not God's just nature but his compassionate nature: God is loving and forgiving, he draws sinners to himself and invites them to come back to him. I think that Jesus only wanted to remind his listeners that God constantly longs for the return of his lost children.

What preceded Jesus' telling of the parable of the prodigal son was his telling of the parable of the lost sheep and the parable of the lost coin (Luke 15:1-10):

"Now all the tax collectors and sinners were coming near him to listen to him. And the Pharisees and the scribes were grumbling and saying, 'This fellow welcomes sinners and eats with them.'

"So he told them this parable: 'Which one of you, having a hundred sheep and losing one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness and go after the one that is lost until he finds it? When he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders and rejoices. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.' Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents that over ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance.'

"Or what woman having ten silver coins, if she loses one of them, does not light a lamp, sweep the house, and search carefully until she finds it? When she finds it, she calls together her friends and neighbours, saying, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin that I have lost.' Just so, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."

The Pharisees and scribes were quite surprised why Jesus welcomes sinners and dines with them. They couldn't understand why Jesus, who is a teacher and who many people consider to be holy, would mingle with people who are deemed to be impure. Jesus, in order to illustrate to them that that is precisely what he came here for -- as he said elsewhere, "I have come not to call the righteous but sinners." -- told them of the parables. He came not to condemn sinners but to draw them towards himself and to forgive them, not to drive away the sick but to heal them. I think that was the purpose of the parables, because he needed the Pharisees, the scribes, and his other listeners to understand that he welcomes sinners, that each of them are precious in the eyes of God, and that he longs for his lost children.

Of course, God is just, and I think Jesus used other parables to show his just nature.

[juan_carlos]

@josephdc: very well said
@souldoctor: God is just, and there are consequences for people's actions. He has said so many times himelf. They will be judged and will be cast into hell. I firmly believe that people deny the existence of God not because of logic and ration. In fact i think it takes as much faith to believe in the scientific explanation of the origin of the universe and of life (big bang theory, life just randomly emerging from primordial ooze) as it takes faith to believe in the existence of God. No. people philosophize and rationalize their way out of a belief in the existence of a God solely because it is againt their fallen nature to have to be judged and to have to answer for all their wicked ways. Man will always be incurably religious because man was built so by God. From the native americans who believed that their fallen warriors will ride in the afterlife in the great hunting grounds to ancient egyptians who buried their dead along with everything they might need in their version of the afterlife. It is only recently that modern man has used science and creative thinking to deny the existence of God for the reasons i have just stated. Modern man has staked no less than his eternal soul for the terrible gamble that there is no God so he could have his way in this life. Hell is real and many people are heading there.