hip-hop or reggae

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Whooaa whats with the hostile words? What did I say to you about assuming? I wasn't mentioning names you just assumed it you.

LOLZ .... look who is ASSUMING .... was that statement for you anyways ? Get ur facts straight ..... tsk tsk tsk .

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

ahhh.. sayop raka pagsabot bai, kay niingon man ka na "older generations prefer UNDERGROUND because thats how they started when MAINSTREAM RAP wasnt in the MAP yet . ".. so mao ni ingon ko na naa na ang mainstream sauna, and those artists were the mainstream before.. get it wala ko niingon na ni underground sila karon.. .

Murag ikaw ang nawagtang .... let us CONSTRICT ourselves to RAP/HIPHOP matters ..of course naa nay MAINSTREAM sa POP , ROCK , HEAVY METAL etc while wala pay MAINSTREAM RAP and the UNDERGROUND RAP just started ... alangan man mangita ang OLD SHOOLERS ug MAINSTREAM RAP when they just barely started ?

take note bai, "brought".. gidala nila. wala ko niingon na nibalik sila sa underground.. sa line na imong gihighlight wala man siguro nako gisulti diba??

BROUGHT is more GRAPHIC compared to INSPIRED ... yes wala no gi sulti but it already clearly implies what you are trying to bring up from the HIGHLGHTED STATEMENT of yours .

"most people nowadays dont like to listen to lyrics like pac,biggie,nas,the underground.. coz most people nowadays wants to party! club,etc, you name it.... and which makes it sucky coz they forgot what hip-hop music was really about..." page 5... read it.. pac,biggie,nas(mainstream), underground.. gisulti na nako.. review lang sa uban..

Ok ... acceptable excuse , but is that statement from yours and ur friends ? If that is the MAJORITY " bai " , ako ang mo una ug delete sa 2PAC , BIGGIE , , NAS etc sa akong iPOD kay mag party na lang LOLZ .

we dont need to compare unya niingon ka na where are we gonna start to compare kalibog gud nimo.. make up your mind.. and LOLS back at cha!

Karon ug mo start ta ug COMPARE ... would you COMPREHEND the real message of LYRICS from the music of the MAINSTREAM people ? Natural the UNDERGROUND has only the bragging rights of saying ... WE COMPOSE BETTER ... for what reason ? For the love of MUSIC ? Now that is LOLZ !

hahay... lahi ang tuno gud ana bai... and

Mabasa diay ang tono ?

"D12 murag back-up raman na sila ni Eminem, para i.diss si Ja and other rivals niya.." question mark asa man wala bitaw na nako butangi kay dili man na siya pangutana.

Bakakon ay ... LOLZ ! seriously?? D12 unsa man na kanta sa D12 na maatbang sa "Crossroads" by BTNH or "What about us" sa WTO album? ang D12 murag back-up raman na sila ni Eminem, para i.diss si Ja and other rivals niya.... kakita naka ?

am i suggesting that newbies dont know nothing about hip-hop?? basaha kuno og balik, tinglig ang pagsabot rana nimo.. og hahay nimo bai, ayaw i cut ang mga statement, ang whole statement jud ang ibutang..

Walay point pag cut sa whole statement because from the 3 to 4 sentences niom , 1 or 2 ra ang naay sense which conatins the main ingredients sa kusinero pa . ANyways .. I checked back at ur original statement , ako ang nalibat ug tan-aw , you are only mentioning about 90's and not the old schools .

tsk tsk tsk tsk, kay kanang imong gihightlight tubag na nako sa "older generations prefer UNDERGROUND because thats how they started when MAINSTREAM RAP wasnt in the MAP yet ", na imong gipost... klaroha sah kung para asa ang akong gipost, dili kay copy and paste lang dayon ka diha unya wala nimo sabta kung about unsa na nako gipost.

Aguy Nerz ... murag kana siya ang naay tono .... but still OLDER GENERATIONS prefer UNDERGROUND kay wala man silay choice that time . Pugson niom na adto sila sa MAINSTREAM na wala pa may mainstream lage atong panahona ? IN short they got stuck where they started . Pangutan-a gud na ang OG nimo sa gang nom " bai " . LOLZ !

ikaw man ang niuna gud og gamit "homie".. aw sige ana man gaha ang gusto nimo no problemo..

Parente ra na sila s abuot na imo ipasabot " bai " .... hehehe ... kana mas maayo pa magbinisdak ta diri klir pas klaro .

you like tupac man kaha?? unsay tubag ni tupac if pareha sila og belief sa usa ka tao or black person "Much respect".. tupac doesnt even know em... diba?? you can hear that line from tupac's tracks...

Bwahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that the JOKE of the DAY ? Walay offense ha but nagkatawa gyud ko nimo " homie " ... LOLZ !! BTW ... I dont like 2PAC as a critic .... I am not a fanatic but I do listen to some of his songs .

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waaaaaaaaaa.. makabuang!

[Archer sensAtion]

waaa reggae ta diri!!!! lami e sayaw!!!!

waaaaa hip hop ya dri :mrgreen:

[Big|nimZ]

Whooaa whats with the hostile words? What did I say to you about assuming? I wasn't mentioning names you just assumed it you.

LOLZ .... look who is ASSUMING .... was that statement for you anyways ? Get ur facts straight ..... tsk tsk tsk .
I'm done talking hahahahaha

[nunobone]

Murag ikaw ang nawagtang .... let us CONSTRICT ourselves to RAP/HIPHOP matters ..of course naa nay MAINSTREAM sa POP , ROCK , HEAVY METAL etc while wala pay MAINSTREAM RAP and the UNDERGROUND RAP just started ... alangan man mangita ang OLD SHOOLERS ug MAINSTREAM RAP when they just barely started ?

actually,unsa diay tawag nimo sa atbang sa underground?? not underground??

BROUGHT is more GRAPHIC compared to INSPIRED ... yes wala no gi sulti but it already clearly implies what you are trying to bring up from the HIGHLGHTED STATEMENT of yours .

clearly implies?? sure ka?? ato kunong bisay-on... "..... gidala ang 'underground-type.....". gidala = nibalik
naabot sila sa maintream unya gidala nila, dili kay naabot sila sa mainstream unya nibalik sila sa underground, kaklaro ana, bisan naman siguro grade school student makasabot ana.

Ok ... acceptable excuse , but is that statement from yours and ur friends ? If that is the MAJORITY " bai " , ako ang mo una ug delete sa 2PAC , BIGGIE , , NAS etc sa akong iPOD kay mag party na lang LOLZ .

ang imong scenario kay extreme naman sad kaayo, and ohh its not an excuse, neways. ok, ask lang ko, sa tan.aw nimo bag-o ka sa hip-hop, because nauso nasad ang hip-hop bars diri, would you buy a Nas,scarface,biggie CD which you havent heard before and dili siya mabagay sa pang party or would you rather buy a 50 cent CD with "Candy Shop" track.... yup according my friends, try to ask lang then kuno "Do you know NAS?" , reply: yeah, siya ang gakanta sa "I Can" and naa siyay collaboration ni pac sa "Thugz Mansion"... question #2: "Do you really know NAS and his type of music?", tell me what would they reply..

Karon ug mo start ta ug COMPARE ... would you COMPREHEND the real message of LYRICS from the music of the MAINSTREAM people ? Natural the UNDERGROUND has only the bragging rights of saying ... WE COMPOSE BETTER ... for what reason ? For the love of MUSIC ? Now that is LOLZ !

ok, did i say bcoz "for the love of MUSIC?" now thats really LOLZ!, like i said, their songs/tracks has more meaning in it...

Mabasa diay ang tono ?

Bakakon ay ... LOLZ ! seriously?? D12 unsa man na kanta sa D12 na maatbang sa "Crossroads" by BTNH or "What about us" sa WTO album? ang D12 murag back-up raman na sila ni Eminem, para i.diss si Ja and other rivals niya.... kakita naka ?

yup sakto ka, dili mabasa ang tono.. peru unsaon man nimo pag-pronouce ang statement na period...
and dili ko babakon oy. saonz nalang... ang gi-quote nimo kay kani --> "ang D12 murag back-up raman na sila ni Eminem, para i.diss si Ja and other rivals niya.. " .....kakita sad ka? LOLZ back at cha... again..

Walay point pag cut sa whole statement because from the 3 to 4 sentences niom , 1 or 2 ra ang naay sense which conatins the main ingredients sa kusinero pa . ANyways .. I checked back at ur original statement , ako ang nalibat ug tan-aw , you are only mentioning about 90's and not the old schools .

hastang gi-cute nasad.. day walay sense sigurado ka ask lang ko, gusto ka motan.aw og salida na dili ka makahuman? or dili ka makasugod?? LOLZ.. ayaw lagi ni cut para mahibaw an sad na kung bahin asa ang akong gipost, dili kay cut lang dayon unya react peru para sa lain diay to na linya/tubag.. lols.. kinsa man ang walay sense nato ron
aint the 90's the old school i wouldnt say na "80's" kayÂ* si MC hammer og Vanilla Ice man ang gipaminaw nato ana...

Aguy Nerz ... murag kana siya ang naay tono .... but still OLDER GENERATIONS prefer UNDERGROUND kay wala man silay choice that time . Pugson niom na adto sila sa MAINSTREAM na wala pa may mainstream lage atong panahona ? IN short they got stuck where they started . Pangutan-a gud na ang OG nimo sa gang nom " bai " . LOLZ !

"and the mainstream success Bone Thugs-N-Harmony". check this site-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.W.A.
so wala pa diay ang mainstream sauna?? SILA ang mainstream sauna..

Mainstream is, generally, the common current of thought. It is a term most often applied in the arts (i.e., music, literature, and performance). This includes:

something that is not out of the ordinary or unusual;
something that is familiar to the masses;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream

LOLZ back at cha.. strike 2... those artists were the mainstream before.. ang type of lyrics na ilang gikanta sauna kay nagpabilin nalang sa underground kay nausab naman ang type sa mainstream...

Parente ra na sila s abuot na imo ipasabot " bai " .... hehehe ... kana mas maayo pa magbinisdak ta diri klir pas klaro .

ohh sige, walay problema.

Bwahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that the JOKE of the DAY ? Walay offense ha but nagkatawa gyud ko nimo " homie " ... LOLZ !! BTW ... I dont like 2PAC as a critic .... I am not a fanatic but I do listen to some of his songs .

ay.. sorry, i thought ganahan ka niya, kay ingon man ka gud na siya jud ang greatest rapper jud. neways..
so you heard some of his song, so you know how 2pac define the word "respect" and how to use it and to earn it..

and ohhhh, one more thing... please stay on the flow...
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i have raggae tracks here... kanang gi.revive na "Sometimes" ni Britney Spears.. heheh, i like the tone, and kinsa nagkanta anang "Nganu?" ambot unsa ang title ani niya.. "Nisudlot akong mata, dihang nakita ka, akong mga amigo sila natingala" <- basta kani ang first lines..

[ground_crashed]

nganu - enchi

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

actually,unsa diay tawag nimo sa atbang sa underground?? not underground??

The word ATBANG ug I-ATBANG has totally different meanings ... the latter was the subject .

clearly implies?? sure ka?? ato kunong bisay-on... "..... gidala ang 'underground-type.....". gidala = nibalik

LITERALLY dili but mao lage na imong gi imply .... ngano man mo resort sila sa UNDERGROUND TYPE kung naay ilang own na MAINSTREAM TYPE ? Back to basic rings a bell ?

naabot sila sa maintream unya gidala nila, dili kay naabot sila sa mainstream unya nibalik sila sa underground, kaklaro ana, bisan naman siguro grade school student makasabot ana.

Natural .... tanan MAINSTREAM knows where they came from , but we are talking about the music they represent na mas " MEANINGFUL " ang underground lyrics compared to mainstream lyrics .

ang imong scenario kay extreme naman sad kaayo, and ohh its not an excuse, neways. ok, ask lang ko, sa tan.aw nimo bag-o ka sa hip-hop, because nauso nasad ang hip-hop bars diri, would you buy a Nas,scarface,biggie CD which you havent heard before and dili siya mabagay sa pang party or would you rather buy a 50 cent CD with "Candy Shop" track.... yup according my friends, try to ask lang then kuno "Do you know NAS?" , reply: yeah, siya ang gakanta sa "I Can" and naa siyay collaboration ni pac sa "Thugz Mansion"... question #2: "Do you really know NAS and his type of music?", tell me what would they reply..

Exactly !! Ikaw ra ni tubag sa imong own na GIKALIBGAN . You know the person as an ICON and not his personality . HOnestly ... mas extreme ka ug scenario but very unrealistic ... the last time I check the clubs in Cebu has to offer .. they still play Coolio music . Mas makadungog ko ug mga updated songs sa mga kurat kaau na pasaheroan na jeep sa Carcar .

ok, did i say bcoz "for the love of MUSIC?" now thats really LOLZ!, like i said, their songs/tracks has more meaning in it...

Did I say that you said it ? But what I said would represent the MAJORITY though .... tsk tsk tsk ... LOLZ !!Underground is nothing but pride and ego covering the concept of LOVE FOR MUSIC kay wala pa man madiskubre .... wala pa modako ang ulo . Not all though .

yup sakto ka, dili mabasa ang tono.. peru unsaon man nimo pag-pronouce ang statement na period...
and dili ko babakon oy. saonz nalang... ang gi-quote nimo kay kani --> "ang D12 murag back-up raman na sila ni Eminem, para i.diss si Ja and other rivals niya.. " .....kakita sad ka? LOLZ back at cha... again..

Wala na sa unsay gi quote nako or unsay gi highlight nako .. naa na sa gi unsa nimo pag BRING UP ang ikong statement ... wala kay KWESTYON bahin sa D12 as an example the very moment I gave them as an example ? LOLZ ... BTW kadtong word na BAKAKON wa smeant as a sarcastic comment ... yaw sabta lage ug literally .

hastang gi-cute nasad.. day walay sense sigurado ka ask lang ko, gusto ka motan.aw og salida na dili ka makahuman? or dili ka makasugod??

Before ko cut n paste ni basa ko tanan sa imong gi sulti ... so di siya comparable sa salida na scenario nimo . Sama sa gi sulti nako .. ang CLIMAX kung sa salida pa ang mao ra akong gi apil . LOLZ !

LOLZ.. ayaw lagi ni cut para mahibaw an sad na kung bahin asa ang akong gipost, dili kay cut lang dayon unya react peru para sa lain diay to na linya/tubag.. lols.. kinsa man ang walay sense nato ron

Imohang komentaryo unya maglisod ka ug PAGHIBAW ?

aint the 90's the old school i wouldnt say na "80's" kay si MC hammer og Vanilla Ice man ang gipaminaw nato ana...

Gipaminaw NATO ana ? " BAI " ... old school RAP ni exist na sa wala pa ka nataw cguro bai .. your only 21 or 22 years old right ?

"and the mainstream success Bone Thugs-N-Harmony". check this site-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.W.A.
so wala pa diay ang mainstream sauna?? SILA ang mainstream sauna..

PATAKA man lang ka oi !! yes MAINSTREAM sila but there are lots of groups already existed na from being UNDERGROUND na MAINSTREAM sila ... kabalo ka kinsay INFLUENCE sa BTNH ?

something that is not out of the ordinary or unusual;
something that is familiar to the masses;

Murag PBA gud ( MAINSTREAM ) ug ang MBA ( UNDERGROUND ) .. that simple " bai " . Ilado ang mainstream ug ang underground , still in the making to become MAINSTREAM .

LOLZ back at cha.. strike 2... those artists were the mainstream before.. ang type of lyrics na ilang gikanta sauna kay nagpabilin nalang sa underground kay nausab naman ang type sa mainstream...

Strike 2 ? Huh ? Oi ang MAINSTREAM na ang NAUSAB karon ? Ano ba talaga koyang Nuno ? Are we on the same page or ga buot buot ka ?

ay.. sorry, i thought ganahan ka niya, kay ingon man ka gud na siya jud ang greatest rapper jud. neways..

Saying someone is the greatest does not JUSTIFY anything .... because what is GOLD for me could be GARBAGE for you .

so you heard some of his song, so you know how 2pac define the word "respect" and how to use it and to earn it..

Ikaw ba diay si 2pac or si homie nimo na si BIGNIMZ ? LOLZ !!

and ohhhh, one more thing... please stay on the flow...

Stay on the flow ? LOLZ !! Igo ra gani ko ni agbay nimo part !

[nunobone]

The word ATBANG ug I-ATBANG has totally different meanings ... the latter was the subject .

lahi ra lagi peru tubaga sah ko. unsay atbang or opposite sa underground??

LITERALLY dili but mao lage na imong gi imply .... ngano man mo resort sila sa UNDERGROUND TYPE kung naay ilang own na MAINSTREAM TYPE ? Back to basic rings a bell ?

sa pagsabot rana nimo... kaklaro anang statement himuon jud na laing meaning.. nakkooo! kinsay ga-post? ikaw o ako? then ngano magbuot man ka kung unsa ang akong gimean ana? nganong usbon man nimo ang meaning sa akong gipost? mao to ang akong gi-mean nya usbon jud, whats the point? to prove that i was wrong on my statement?

Natural .... tanan MAINSTREAM knows where they came from , but we are talking about the music they represent na mas " MEANINGFUL " ang underground lyrics compared to mainstream lyrics .

yup all Mainstream knows where they came from.. peru nganong naabot man ka ana?? kay ang imong gi-quote kay about man sa "Brought........" .. neways, asa diay mas meaningful lyrics about b*tches and h**z or life struggles and community?

Exactly !! Ikaw ra ni tubag sa imong own na GIKALIBGAN . You know the person as an ICON and not his personality . HOnestly ... mas extreme ka ug scenario but very unrealistic ... the last time I check the clubs in Cebu has to offer .. they still play Coolio music . Mas makadungog ko ug mga updated songs sa mga kurat kaau na pasaheroan na jeep sa Carcar .

ehemmm.. hip-hop in general is not about being an ICON... its about the artists personality, battles, works, etc.. dont you know that?? a poll was created in a Tupac site, asking what did you miss about 2pac.. choices were a) Music b) Movie c) him being tupac(personality), you know what letter got 90% C! Coolio? limmie guess "See you when you get there"? yup sometimes they play coolio tracks but what is the majority

Did I say that you said it ? But what I said would represent the MAJORITY though .... tsk tsk tsk ... LOLZ !!Underground is nothing but pride and ego covering the concept of LOVE FOR MUSIC kay wala pa man madiskubre .... wala pa modako ang ulo . Not all though .

and according to who according to someone who dont listen to underground music?? LOL, i listen to both underground and mainstream, and i place my bet on the underground as "lyrics got meaning in it"..
represent the majority have you tried listening to the underground music??

Wala na sa unsay gi quote nako or unsay gi highlight nako .. naa na sa gi unsa nimo pag BRING UP ang ikong statement ... wala kay KWESTYON bahin sa D12 as an example the very moment I gave them as an example ? LOLZ ... BTW kadtong word na BAKAKON wa smeant as a sarcastic comment ... yaw sabta lage ug literally .

wala na sa unsay gi-quote nimo?? Ha?? ok lang ka, unya so pwede ka mo-react sa mga statement na wala ka kahibaw kung asa gikan?? unsaon nimo pagsabot sa idea if wala nimo subaya kung asa gikan? mas masabtan nimo kung gi unsa nako pag BRING UP ang statement "IF" imong basahon sah kung asa siya gikan. diba?

Before ko cut n paste ni basa ko tanan sa imong gi sulti ... so di siya comparable sa salida na scenario nimo . Sama sa gi sulti nako .. ang CLIMAX kung sa salida pa ang mao ra akong gi apil . LOLZ !

day? pila raman ang pag paste sa whole statement, kadiyot ra ana, mas kuti pa hinuon ang i-"cut" nimo ang statement, it is comparable.. and also CLIMAX? pataka raman gani ka og tubag, kay bahin sa lain to ang akong gi-post.

Imohang komentaryo unya maglisod ka ug PAGHIBAW ?

dili ako ang maglisod ug PAGHIBAW, ikaw ang pataka og tubag sa akong komentaryo, kay nag-istorya ko bahin sa "A" nya imong i-cut dayon nya react ka bahin sa "B". pila raman ang pag post sa whole statement oy..

Gipaminaw NATO ana ? " BAI " ... old school RAP ni exist na sa wala pa ka nataw cguro bai .. your only 21 or 22 years old right ?

hahayz... OLD SCHOOL rap.... -> EAZY E, NWA, etc... "gangsta gangsta" style is old school... bone thugs' "thuggish ruggish" is old school... pangutana diha sa mga real hip-hopers... try to listen to Yahoo Launch and choose OLD SCHOOL RAP station.. makadungog raka sa kanta sa NWA(Dre,ICe,E,etc),and ohh, that what my OGs before said too.

PATAKA man lang ka oi !! yes MAINSTREAM sila but there are lots of groups already existed na from being UNDERGROUND na MAINSTREAM sila ... kabalo ka kinsay INFLUENCE sa BTNH ?

OH! naa raman diay na... "yes MAINSTREAM SILA" see! naay mainstream sauna! hastang. ingon ka ganiha wala ni exists ang mainstream, kalibog jud nimo oy.

Murag PBA gud ( MAINSTREAM ) ug ang MBA ( UNDERGROUND ) .. that simple " bai " . Ilado ang mainstream ug ang underground , still in the making to become MAINSTREAM .

>>Underground is nothing but pride and ego covering the concept of LOVE FOR MUSIC kay wala pa man madiskubre ....
unsaon man pag ILADO sa usa ka taw if WALA pa siya NADISKUBRE? liboga sa imong statements oy, mo conflict man siya.

Strike 2 ? Huh ? Oi ang MAINSTREAM na ang NAUSAB karon ? Ano ba talaga koyang Nuno ? Are we on the same page or ga buot buot ka ?

lols.. wala ko gabuot-buot oy! "those artists were the mainstream before" kapila naman ni nako nimo gisulti? dili japon ka kasabot? paminawa gud ang tracks nilang NWA,NAS,PAC,BIGGIE,BTNH,etc og tracks nilang 50 cent, JA,Fabolous, MM, syaro dili nimo mahibaw-an kung unsa ang nausab. actually we could be on the same page here if you listen to those artists, and again sultii ko if unsa ang nausab sa mga klase sa kanta..

Saying someone is the greatest does not JUSTIFY anything .... because what is GOLD for me could be GARBAGE for you .

hmmmm, PAC is not garbage for me, not him... the thing i said was garbage are the Lyrics or today's mainstream(aka B*tches and h**z).

Ikaw ba diay si 2pac or si homie nimo na si BIGNIMZ ? LOLZ !!

ayaw tubaga ang akong pangutana ug laing pangutana. saonzzz... since you've heard some of pac's tracks so you know how he define the word "respect" and how to use it and to earn it??..
and dili ako si tupac, peru i like tupac, i believe in tupac's theories and not just me, ask the (hip-hop)Black community or the hip-hopers here. if you saw "Tupac: Resurrection" movie, you'll know how the world loved him and how they respect and believe his views. its not just my opinion its the people in the world's opinion.

Stay on the flow ? LOLZ !! Igo ra gani ko ni agbay nimo part !

ni agbay?? like what?? i-divert ang story UG tubagon ko ug pangutana, unya walay klarong tubag? and ohh, CUT the whole statement unya wla basaha kung asa gikan ang gi-post unya react dayon?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

lahi ra lagi peru tubaga sah ko. unsay atbang or opposite sa underground??

Isnt it MAINSTREAM ?

sa pagsabot rana nimo... kaklaro anang statement himuon jud na laing meaning.. nakkooo! kinsay ga-post? ikaw o ako? then ngano magbuot man ka kung unsa ang akong gimean ana? nganong usbon man nimo ang meaning sa akong gipost? mao to ang akong gi-mean nya usbon jud, whats the point? to prove that i was wrong on my statement?

I wasnt proving anything unsay sayop nimo or unsay sayop nako ... I was pointing out that dig deeper than that . Klaro na kaau oi .... ni manipulate lang ka .

yup all Mainstream knows where they came from.. peru nganong naabot man ka ana?? kay ang imong gi-quote kay about man sa "Brought........" .. neways, asa diay mas meaningful lyrics about b*tches and h**z or life struggles and community?

LOLZ .... dont be specific .... UNDERGROUND doesnt use the word BITCHES and HO'S to promote their music also ? Learn more and then talk more . INgon ana na lang diay ka santo ang UNDERGROUND ?

ehemmm.. hip-hop in general is not about being an ICON..

Of course ... but we are basing the discussion on BTNH , NAS and 2PAC right as ur given examples ? Ikaw kaila ka ani nila ? yes kaila ka sa ilang music but themselves personally and their struglles in life . Mao na ang fine line sa being an ICON as to knowing their PERSONALITIES .

its about the artists personality, battles, works, etc.. dont you know that?? a poll was created in a Tupac site, asking what did you miss about 2pac.. choices were a) Music b) Movie c) him being tupac(personality), you know what letter got 90% C! Coolio? limmie guess "See you when you get there"? yup sometimes they play coolio tracks but what is the majority

Who made the site ? LOLZ !! Hahaha ... ayaw lage sabta ug literally ... abi kay ni ingon ko ug COOLIO pagawas pod ka ug kanta niya ? I was referring to songs na panahon pa ni MAMPOR .

and according to who according to someone who dont listen to underground music?? LOL, i listen to both underground and mainstream, and i place my bet on the underground as "lyrics got meaning in it"..

Â* You only listen to their works ... I know some of them personally ....Â* local aspiring UNDERGROUND HIPHOP artist here in Vegas , whats the BET ?

represent the majority have you tried listening to the underground music??

Like I said RESTRICT ourselves to the UNDERGROUND HIPHOP kay maski ang COUNTRY MUSIC has their own underground scene .

wala na sa unsay gi-quote nimo?? Ha?? ok lang ka, unya so pwede ka mo-react sa mga statement na wala ka kahibaw kung asa gikan?? unsaon nimo pagsabot sa idea if wala nimo subaya kung asa gikan? mas masabtan nimo kung gi unsa nako pag BRING UP ang statement "IF" imong basahon sah kung asa siya gikan. diba?

Go back to basics ... what did I say earlier ? Before I cut and pasted it , gi basa nako ug gi ukay and strain ra ang critical issues kay ang uban sentences sa dula pa s abata mga plawer ra .

day? pila raman ang pag paste sa whole statement, kadiyot ra ana, mas kuti pa hinuon ang i-"cut" nimo ang statement, it is comparable.. and also CLIMAX? pataka raman gani ka og tubag, kay bahin sa lain to ang akong gi-post.

Refer to the post above . Plain and simple .

dili ako ang maglisod ug PAGHIBAW, ikaw ang pataka og tubag sa akong komentaryo, kay nag-istorya ko bahin sa "A" nya imong i-cut dayon nya react ka bahin sa "B". pila raman ang pag post sa whole statement oy..

LOLZ ... dont get upset about the copy and paste thing .... we were only discussing regarding sa mas MEANINGFUL ang UNDERGROUND compared sa MAINSTREAM but it doesnt stop there .

hahayz... OLD SCHOOL rap.... -> EAZY E, NWA, etc... "gangsta gangsta" style is old school... bone thugs' "thuggish ruggish" is old school... pangutana diha sa mga real hip-hopers... try to listen to Yahoo Launch and choose OLD SCHOOL RAP station.. makadungog raka sa kanta sa NWA(Dre,ICe,E,etc),and ohh, that what my OGs before said too.

Your OG's told you na labaw ra nimo ug 2 years sa edad ? I didnt say di na sila OLD SCHOOL but speaking of our OLD SCHOOL gumikan sa diskusyon nato , refer to the roots kadtong mga nagsugod gyud sa UNDERGROUND then ni move on as MAINSTREAM . YAHOO music as reference ? Get real !

OH! naa raman diay na... "yes MAINSTREAM SILA" see! naay mainstream sauna! hastang. ingon ka ganiha wala ni exists ang mainstream, kalibog jud nimo oy.

LOLZ !!!! Ayaw lage pagpataka kay samot ka ug KALIBOG ana ... sila ang MAINSTREAM sa UNA pero as aman sila ni GIKAN ? Nagsugod sila sa MAINSTREAM gyud ? Wala ni EXIST ang MAINSTREAM sa ga sugod pa lang ang BTNH ? Ayaw lage pataka ! I said wala pay MAINSTREAM sa ga sugod pa lang ang HIPHOP obviously and ang BTNH kanus-a ra gud na sila ga sugod . Yes for you basin because sa edad nimo na diha ka ga sugod nila but not in HIPHOP in general .

unsaon man pag ILADO sa usa ka taw if WALA pa siya NADISKUBRE? liboga sa imong statements oy, mo conflict man siya.

LOLZ .... ga libog na pod ka kay either you refuse to comprehend or you cant comprehend ... mao bitaw mo MOVE ON ang UNDERGROUND to being MAINSTREAM aron mailado . ANg nakaila lang sa mga UNDEGROUND are the UNDERGROUND themselves while the MAINSTREAM ones kay both the mainstream and the underground ... duh ?

lols.. wala ko gabuot-buot oy! "those artists were the mainstream before" kapila naman ni nako nimo gisulti? dili japon ka kasabot? paminawa gud ang tracks nilang NWA,NAS,PAC,BIGGIE,BTNH,etc

Â* They were the MAINSTREAM before ? LOLZ !! They are still till today ! Asa sila gikan ? UNDERGOUND ...

og tracks nilang 50 cent, JA,Fabolous, MM, syaro dili nimo mahibaw-an kung unsa ang nausab.

Â* They are also MAINSTREAM and will always be MAINSTREAM ... Asa sila gikan ? UNDERGROUND .... syaro gi hungit na gyud na .

actually we could be on the same page here if you listen to those artists, and again sultii ko if unsa ang nausab sa mga klase sa kanta..

The usage of words and the beats . Kuyaw kaau ilabi na ug ang mo sabot sa lyrics nila , sabton ug LITERAL . Though I didnt say that some are really making nonsense music but in a way ni sikat lang gihapon like Lil Jon or the Yin Yang twins talking all the time how they are being pinps and into crunk ... but the beats are good that makes ur booty clap matod pa ni Luda . But dont generalized because of those 2 I cited .

hmmmm, PAC is not garbage for me, not him... the thing i said was garbage are the Lyrics or today's mainstream(aka B*tches and h**z).

Most if not all songs of Pac has literal words or words referring to BITCHES and HO'S ... ayaw lage sabta ug literally .

ayaw tubaga ang akong pangutana ug laing pangutana. saonzzz... since you've heard some of pac's tracks so you know how he define the word "respect" and how to use it and to earn it??..

LOLZ !!!! RESPECT has hundreds of definition .. but just because you listen to songs that portrays how to give and get respect makes you one also . Ikaw ba lage si 2PAC that you are using it as medium to enlighten me ?

and dili ako si tupac, peru i like tupac,

padayon pa ta ani ?? LOLZ !!!!

i believe in tupac's theories and not just me, ask the (hip-hop)Black community or the hip-hopers here. if you saw "Tupac: Resurrection" movie, you'll know how the world loved him and how they respect and believe his views. its not just my opinion its the people in the world's opinion.

Kaw ra ga ingon na ask the BLACK COMMUNITY and karon WORLD na pod ? I am not against 2PAC .. I even owned a couple of albums from him but ang imohang arguments lang is lagpas kaau .

ni agbay?? like what?? i-divert ang story UG tubagon ko ug pangutana, unya walay klarong tubag? and ohh, CUT the whole statement unya wla basaha kung asa gikan ang gi-post unya react dayon?

LOLZ ... stay on the flow man kaha ko ? Pasabot ana ni LAGPAS ko or ni OUT of THIS WORLD ko niom discussing when for a fact igo ra ko ni sumpay sa mga period nimo ... so if I have to stay in the flow ... damay ka ana kay nagpadala ra ko sa kahig niom wherever you want to bring the discussion .