PHILIPPINE MOTTO! POOR GETS POORER, RICH GETS RICHER!

[FK]

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you will only get poorer if you allow it to be... and even if you are rich... you will also get poor if you allow it to happen. So the choice is yours.

[FrecieBar]

this is very idealistic of you but dont you see?
people can only change if they want to. if you want change..
change yourself first and be a good example.[/quote]


thats why i incourage you because i did it before you kow it.
in every time i said, i said we including my self

[gareb]

Define poor... AFAIK, minimum wage incomed workers or slightly even less can still live a decent life (at least not in a pigsty) in this country.

if being poor is a sin and this is how you define poor, then each person you meet down the street who happens to fit the description presented above is a sinner.

As long as a person works he is not poor, his spirits makes him such.

in this country, my friend, so many people do hard work, yet remain poor. are they "sinners" then or are they not? so many people work hard to earn a living yet have minimum wages. is it his spirit or his wages that make him poor then? so many people work hard yet could never feed their families well, and fall into that 'spirit' characteristic of being poor. is it then just because they want it or because they have minimum wages at the first place? many minimum wage earners do not have that spirit of being poor as they have not really been afflicted with the 'sub-culture of poverty'. are they sinners then?

It is very basic, if a person won't work or work hard enough he will always be poor, plain and simple. Circumstance, the rich, the government, or even luck etc. are not major factors in shaping ones future or destiny, the great factor is the power within you.

rather too enterpreneurial. if the opportunities of becoming rich, situations that are receptive to one's "rise to riches" is there, naturally many would prosper. to say that the only major factor is the self is to practically reject the significance of the relationship between the person wanting to be rich and the society that can offer him the conditions to become one. we fail to point out the role of these conditions to influence and even mold the mentalities that can become prevalent in society in general.

to say that the people living in the slums are poor because they have that disposition that makes them poor, is to say that they do not even try to at least alleviate their economic conditions. this is to neglect the fact that their dispositions are a result of them being poor; the utter desperation taking different forms of defense mechanisms to "lessen" poverty's effects. it is a cycle so brutal that the people rendered unable to escape will eventually be categorized with the sub-culture of poverty.

Let us dismiss the idea that the Rich wants the Poor to remain poor or even poorer because when you come to think of it, poor people will become a liability to the Rich people's process in getting richer. The Rich people doesn't deliberately want poor people to be such, they are just being blamed.

to say this is to ignore the obvious corrpution this country is embroiled into as an example. not a liability, but an excuse. the dispositions of the poor detatches them from seeing too far ahead. this is used by the rich to even get richer. the rich do not partake their riches.

let us not make it appear that the rich has nothing to do with the poor being what they are, if we have not seen the society through the eyes of the poor and if we have not seen the glaring truth of the devious machinations the rich is employing to even get richer by sucking the already feeble poor majority of everything that it is worth.

[katrina]

hay nako....
i think the poor remains poor because they work for money and they never learn how to make money work for them.
always remember that it does not take money to make money.
to prove this,
those who start from scratch did not have money..
they worked hard; yes..
but this does not make them work for money.

[LytSlpr]

to answer your question, let me give you a simple scenario, there's a poor chinese & filipino guy both with not a cent in his pocket "in our country" (meaning the same opportunitues). guess who will rise above poverty line first if not become rich? i'll bet my money on the yellow guy. go figure... the bottomline is, the power to rise above is within you despite the obstacles and i still insist that being poor & miserable is a sin. btw, i'm not chinese.

[gareb]

we are playing by stereotypes. it is unfair. it is as if we place a label that a typical filipino is lazy compared to the chinese, a very dangerous generalization that may give us the impression that anything cannot be done if the person doing it is a Filipino.

and this is suppose to apply to all of us... me, you, them... because of the fact that we are born Filipinos.

and we cannot firmly establish the fact that both peeps will have the very same opportunities only because they both live in one country.

true, more than likely the chinese will emerge on top. but what are the factors? is it safe to assume that only one factor significantly influenced the outcome of the situation? what about the chinese version of the "pakikisama" and complacency?

[LytSlpr]

we are playing by stereotypes. it is unfair. it is as if we place a label that a typical filipino is lazy compared to the chinese, a very dangerous generalization that may give us the impression that anything cannot be done if the person doing it is a Filipino.

because we are talking about people/nationality, we cannot help but generalize & yes it is sad but true, generally Filipinos are lazy just like mexicans, spaniards & other nationalities of similar culture. "Filipino/Juan de la Cruz stories" don't exist for nothing. Just like the Chinese, they don't excel just by playing ping pong.

back to my example, granting they have equal talents & opportunities, the chinese will excel because "most" of them have the right attitude & motivation which obviously, "most" of us filipinos do not have. majority of the big companies in our country are not owned by full blooded Filipinos, why is that? can anybody give me their 2 cents worth & not a justification?

the chinese people's experience in china was worst than ours but why were they able to miraculously recover in a quite reasonably short span of time?

[neo-neanderthal]

because we are talking about people/nationality, we cannot help but generalize & yes it is sad but true, generally Filipinos are lazy just like mexicans, spaniards & other nationalities of similar culture. "Filipino/Juan de la Cruz stories" don't exist for nothing. Just like the Chinese, they don't excel just by playing ping pong.

back to my example, granting they have equal talents & opportunities, the chinese will excel because "most" of them have the right attitude & motivation which obviously, "most" of us filipinos do not have. majority of the big companies in our country are not owned by full blooded Filipinos, why is that? can anybody give me their 2 cents worth & not a justification?

the chinese people's experience in china was worst than ours but why were they able to miraculously recover in a quite reasonably short span of time

hmmm..... generealizations?....... ey, how come i aint rich like those chinese fellas?

remember sir/ miss, that stories can be fabricated as easily as brewing coffee. stories doesnt have to be true... its the culture dude... the way we are made to believe...... the way we are supposed to think.... the way greater forces are affecting on our communities (and i dont mean divine forces...). if my great great grandfather stole a huge chunk of land long long time ago and at present, i happen to own it... I would also tell the world how industrious, hardworking (in stealing.. hehehe) my great great granpa was.... and how i righteously own the stolen land now. that is how it works... being a landed fella in my community, (land means power), i would spread stories of how lazy my neighbors ancestors were and how bad they were and stuff.... and being influential and all...... id even let em pass my stories to their children and their children's children... hehehehe.. kewl huh?

if only i were rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LytSlpr]

the stories don't need to be true but they were not made based on nothing, catch my drift?

[neo-neanderthal]

the stories don't need to be true but they were not made based on nothing, catch my drift?

im not sure