Japan threat to shoot down N. Korean satellite

[wak_wak]

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^^ usa ra ka stinger ang katapat aning OV 10.. hehe..

[cottonmouth]

The issue for DPRK is not about tactical superiority, in fact, it is far from that. The percentage that this testing will end up in failure if conducted is very high. But technology is not the matter of importance for DPRK but rather it is their own strategy of diplomacy. With all the attention now pointed towards Gaza, plus the fact that the governments of South Korea and China has increasingly been neglecting the North, it is high time that DPRK needs a boost to its much needed attention. If the US has what we call "Gun boat" diplomacy, well DPRK has also its own "Taepodong" diplomacy. This thing is business: both in getting the worldwide attention and esprit de corp.

But the point of contention is: what if DPRK would really lunch? Does Japan has balls to walk the talk? Mao nay gatangag ug dakong ganti. All small events can lead to bigger one, remember the Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria? One sinlge bullet started WWI.

[rodsky]

Ok, after 2 hours of editing config files and creating scenarios, I believe I managed to come up with a decent simulation of a Taepodong 1 launch from a hypothetical North Korean Rocket Launch Facility at Hamhung, which is located near the center of the map below.



The data I used for constructing the custom-rocket for Orbiter, was the following:

* Stage1: 1 x Taepodong 1-1. Gross Mass: 25,649 kg (56,546 lb). Empty Mass: 3,733 kg (8,229 lb). Motor: 4 x Nodong. Thrust (vac): 577.337 kN (129,791 lbf). Isp: 255 sec. Burn time: 95 sec. Length: 12.00 m (39.00 ft). Diameter: 1.80 m (5.90 ft). Propellants: Nitric acid/UDMH.

* Stage2: 1 x Taepodong 1-2. Gross Mass: 7,505 kg (16,545 lb). Empty Mass: 1,456 kg (3,209 lb). Motor: 1 x Nodong. Thrust (vac): 144.334 kN (32,448 lbf). Isp: 255 sec. Burn time: 176 sec. Length: 12.00 m (39.00 ft). Diameter: 0.96 m (3.14 ft). Propellants: Nitric acid/UDMH.

* Stage3: 1 x Taepodong 1-3. Gross Mass: 252 kg (555 lb). Empty Mass: 50 kg (110 lb). Thrust (vac): 18.330 kN (4,121 lbf). Isp: 250 sec. Burn time: 27 sec. Length: 1.80 m (5.90 ft). Diameter: 0.30 m (0.98 ft). Propellants: Solid.

Take note that I prioritized getting accurate data, and the rocket you shall see in the following screenshots is just a crude interim multistage rocket that is about three times the size of a Taepodong. I didn't have time to create a 3D-mesh for the rocket so I just used this readymade "shell" for this exercise. The important thing to consider here is the rocket performance data, which, based on my testing, roughly approximates the characteristics and launch behaviour of a Taepodong 1.

Take note that I also didn't have time to create a nice looking launch facility (thus, I didn't show the launch) but I will do so when time permits.

The objective of this exercise is simply to show that if the target of the North Korean Taepodong Launch is indeed Japan, then it cannot hit the continental US, and if it target is the US, then the rocket cannot hit Japan. Simple eh? It's all about launch azimuth.

Ok here's a screenshot of the rocket about 50 seconds after launching from Hamhung.


As you can see from the map CRT on the lower right hand corner of the display, the azimuth needed to get to or fly over Japan, is about 080 degrees, almost due east. But, if we were to extrapolate this orbital path, the rocket/payload has no chance of falling towards the continental US, because it would then push the orbital path way out into the Pacific, towards South America/Antarctica.


So, instead of flying towards Japan, I actually AVOID IT! Why? So I can target the US! Hahaha! Look at my orbital path, it's not even touching any part of Japan...it's mostly flying over the Soviet Union now...


This screenshot shows me fine tuning the trajectory so I basically will be able to impact the missile somewhere on the US west coast.


The tell-tale image...see, that's the island of HOKKAIDO, and I'm just passing by it, NOT over it...


...because I'm now passing over Sakhalin Island (Russia)


Now just 8 minutes after passing Sakhalin Island, I'm now over ALASKA USA!!!! WOOOT!


Doing course corrections so as to impact somewhere on the US west coast.


Ahhhh finally...hehehe...right on target!



So, like I said, if the North Koreans wanted to impact the missile on Japan it would launch into an azimuth of about 080 degrees, whereas, if it wanted to launch the Taepodong towards the US, the azimuth would have to be about 030, both of which are totally incompatible with one another.

Thanks for that remark SioDenz, I finally got back into Orbiter custom scenario and rocket making, thanks to this thread hehehe.

-RODION

[wak_wak]

Before reaching US the NOKOR missile will be shutdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et8NYnzrfS8

[neoraising]

di man tingali na mka.ignite ug world war ang NoKor kay wla man na clay klaro nga allies..instead gitabangan cla ug kasaba about sa ilang agenda involving their nukes just like sa Iran nga kasab.an pud about their nuclear program..

Pero imu huna hunaon nagkauban baya ni sila sa World war2. di bah mga japanese ug Korean man to nagka uban?

gi.occupy man sa japan sauna ang korea even before world war 2..they probably forced the Koreans to join in their army..

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

umm. dili ba mashadlok kung naa kaugalingon satellite ang North Korea? maayo kaayo explain sa missile. basin kana ang gikahlukan sa US ug sa Japan. sulti lang ug issile pero ang fact gyud naa kaugalingon satellite ang N.Korea. bisan ako mahadlok kung naa sila satellite. makakuha sila ug pictures sa tanan part sa earth. or sci-fi ra ni?

[nirdle_phogi]

hmm. kadako ug army & military forces ang north korea. igo na makapasiugda ug world war..

[ninzska21]

LOL @nirdle_phogi

North Korea has alot of Man Power. daghan kaayo sila ug 5 star general. murag sa china.
kita pila ato 5 star general?

pero ang question. kakang ilang number of arms ky maka abot ba sa amerika? ilang transport guro wa ka tunga pdng sa amerika gi missile nah..

More on Defense and N. Korea but Lack on Offense.

@rodsky

OMG unsa na n simulation? HowtoNuketheWorld?
hehehe. sori igno ko.

[ninzska21]

ouble Post:

anyway its still far from reality na magka WWIII.

[wak_wak]

Watch this video, this will be the possible scenario if Japan will intercept the missile of NOKOR, Japan have the same technology with the US.

YouTube - Kinetic Energy Interceptors: Surface Navy