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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    OT: im still hoping to see the day, that your department teaches Jacques Lacan as a course.
    Yes he was a brilliant French Psychoanalyst!

    I think the USC Philosophy dept. is teaching his ideas too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    OT: im still hoping to see the day, that your department teaches Jacques Lacan as a course.
    Are you a Philo teacher or Theologian sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Are you a Philo teacher or Theologian sir?
    neither, i am a student.

    nobody in that department specializes in him. the current chair is familiar and competent to deal with him, but he doesnt specialize on him.

    ive read his Eye of the Spirit. but wasnt keen on it. got me bored. sorry for saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    neither, i am a student.

    nobody in that department specializes in him. the current chair is familiar and competent to deal with him, but he doesnt specialize on him.

    ive read his Eye of the Spirit. but wasnt keen on it. got me bored. sorry for saying.
    It's ok to get bored. I am even bored reading the bible from cover to cover. lol

    You mean to say , you are a student in USC Philosophy? I don't believe in you. lol

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    Atheism..
    social ties that denies existence of supreme being..
    allowing themselves to do much good deed JUST for the sake of being good..
    nothing in return.. just that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikxz unÖ View Post
    Atheism..
    social ties that denies existence of supreme being..
    allowing themselves to do much good deed JUST for the sake of being good..
    nothing in return.. just that..
    What is the ESSENCE of GOODNESS then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoundedbyHeaven View Post
    Had a "liberal-minded" officemate here who, commenting on that article, stated that "Freedom FOR Religion also includes Freedom FROM Religion." I argued against her, of course. But what about you? What do you guys and gals think about that statement? Are you for or against it?

    Shalom.
    I AGREE WITH YOUR OFFICEMATE.

    I see religion as a system of belief, whether or not it includes the belief in a god or a belief in some other doctrines or principles. In that sense, at least I can say that Freedom FOR (or OF) religion also includes Freedom FROM religion. It is freedom for/of religion because you are free to believe in anything you like, and free to ACT in accordance with what you believe in. It also includes freedom FROM religion because a person may have no religion or religious belief at all. In other words, freedom refers to both - FREEDOM TO BELIEVE and FREEDOM NOT TO BELIEVE.

    OR Im thinking also that your officemate has studied constitutional law and encountered these two concepts. But in law, freedom FROM religion refers more to the state's attitude towards religion in general. Freedom FROM religion - because the state does not want to espouse any particular belief system, which is a usual characteristic of democratic states. It refers more of an attitude of tolerance, where all religions are allowed in a state for as long as these do not conflict with public interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassenav View Post
    I AGREE WITH YOUR OFFICEMATE.

    I see religion as a system of belief, whether or not it includes the belief in a god or a belief in some other doctrines or principles. In that sense, at least I can say that Freedom FOR (or OF) religion also includes Freedom FROM religion. It is freedom for/of religion because you are free to believe in anything you like, and free to ACT in accordance with what you believe in. It also includes freedom FROM religion because a person may have no religion or religious belief at all. In other words, freedom refers to both - FREEDOM TO BELIEVE and FREEDOM NOT TO BELIEVE.

    OR Im thinking also that your officemate has studied constitutional law and encountered these two concepts. But in law, freedom FROM religion refers more to the state's attitude towards religion in general. Freedom FROM religion - because the state does not want to espouse any particular belief system, which is a usual characteristic of democratic states. It refers more of an attitude of tolerance, where all religions are allowed in a state for as long as these do not conflict with public interest.
    I am even FREE to TRANSCEND the limitations of one's RELIGION.

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    religion, most commonly characterized by beliefs in a supreme being or supernatural being ( whatever the hell that means ).. usually.. but not always.. including gods.. :]

    but still many of people don't have fair understanding that would make such a mistake..

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    true... but for the less educated, religion would shape them to be a better person because of fear of god... so still faith is important.... imagine history without religion, barbaric kaau tah... neglect the spanish period, the spanish friars themselves are evil... ^^

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