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  1. #161

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Conclusion: We don't need any preacher and we don't need the bible to know the TRUTH. The TRUTH is not in the preacher and in the bible. The TRUTH is within you!
    ask lang ko reg, unsa naman d-i atong basahon ani reg?

  2. #162
    love daw niya ang Katoliko nya mag sig panaway sa Katoliko.

    toink ano ba talaga brader?

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    unsaon man nila pagkabalo nga inspired to or dili? infact kanang "inspired bible" nimo karun has errors and insertions in it violating one major rule on inspiration.
    errors? insertions?
    who said it has errors? people like you who don't believed the bible?
    its obvious bro to believed that it has errors because you're not using it.
    Bro ang naay error ang translation dili ang bible, remember they're hundreds or thousands translation of the bible, so it has a possible errors but it doesn't mean the bible itself has errors.

    i think you know also that they're errors in koran translations or mistranslations but I didn't say that it has error the koran itself.




    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    and i think you didnt get my point which is...naay daghang RELIABLE nga manuscript nga wala nila gi include sa pag compile because of Theological bias.
    wala gi-include? bro it doesn't mean that its realiable it follows nga e-include dayon, like the Gospel of Judas Iscariot or the 6 books added my Catholic and Protestants for GOOD NEWS BIBLE translation.
    It should co-inside with the other books because the books of the BIble are interrelated.
    Apostles refer to the old testaments books including first 5 books (genesis to deuteronomy).
    so if you claim that there should be included, first it should be referred by the apostles but sad to say it wasn't.


    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    between "inspiration" and "reliability" i prefer the latter because the former is more like an excuse based on mysticism.
    bro you can prefer anything you want but it doesn't mean its official.


    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    not everything is in the internet mao siguro kulang imo grasp sa mga important points sa history. Being a sakristan and a graduate of a catholic church is not a guarantee for having a good background on some theological issues.
    did I say I have a good back ground of theological issues?
    and mostly kindly review my post if I Post "only in the internet".
    don't presume things bro, let just discuss.

    PEace!

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    That's cute. So, in essence you still have a Catholic heart for you came there and all you need is RESPECT from those people who love you esp. your parents. Are they still Catholic? So, RESPECT THEIR BELIEFS and NEVER NEVER JUDGE THEM so that you will not be JUDGED. Ok? So, its time now to pray the Angelus.
    not a catholic heart but a christian heart that being preached by Jesus Christ.
    its been preached by God and Christ that we love other people and respect them.

    and with this post of yours "NEVER NEVER JUDGE THEM so that you will not be JUDGED."
    you really taken the bible out of context.

    yes it was said in matthew 7 that never judge so that you will never judged, but if you just continue reading the verse it will explain itslef:
    1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
    5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


    in fact Jesus Christ preached to judge:
    24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
    John 7:24

    see now how big you missed to understand the bible even you've read them all and even study theology?

    Peace!

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    ooops my Islam came from Prophet Muhammad(SAAW) not from Hagar.
    Well then, let me re-position my statement to a different angle and it goes like this...Hagar is more likely both the legal and ideal wife of Abraham according to the law w/c was given after Abraham.
    I have no problem with the timing of the law, the point is Hagar's marriage to Abe was a legal act.
    oooppss also, try to read again your history of islam, then you will see your nation has been linked to HAGAR and the Mt. of Arabia.

    Hagar is more likely? according to your teaching?

    Hagar is the slave of Sarah.

    You don't have problem with the timing of the law or you wan't to consider it because it will ruin your principles?

    in your teaching bro, who is HAGAR? a slave or a wife?

    Peace!

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    lets see how a graduate from a catholic school answers these following questions.

    -What constitute a legitimate canon?

    -Why is it that the catholic church and the protestant church has a different basis for canonization?

    -Is it true that one man's scripture is another man's apocrypha?
    what would I get if I can answer these questions?
    Will you accept my answer and source?
    or will you reject it because you will refer to another source?

    let me know your source first so that I can answer your question according to your likes.

    Peace!

  7. #167
    pagklaro mo uy...............

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    what would I get if I can answer these questions?
    Will you accept my answer and source?
    or will you reject it because you will refer to another source?

    let me know your source first so that I can answer your question according to your likes.

    Peace!
    you're not a catholic, rcruman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    errors? insertions?
    who said it has errors? people like you who don't believed the bible?
    its obvious bro to believed that it has errors because you're not using it.
    Bro ang naay error ang translation dili ang bible, remember they're hundreds or thousands translation of the bible, so it has a possible errors but it doesn't mean the bible itself has errors.

    i think you know also that they're errors in koran translations or mistranslations but I didn't say that it has error the koran itself.
    who said it has errors? The bible scholars, thats why you have the revised versions.

    im not using it(bible)? you can always test me.

    ang error ang translation dili ang bible? meaning what exactly? Di ba kanang mga translations ang tawag ana nila kay bible? klaroha sa daw rcruman,kay naglibog ko gamay.

    There are errors in the Koran? I dont think so. siguro sa pag translate naay errors pero ang Koran itself w/c is in Arabic walay errors. But you can always prove me wrong.





    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    wala gi-include? bro it doesn't mean that its realiable it follows nga e-include dayon, like the Gospel of Judas Iscariot or the 6 books added my Catholic and Protestants for GOOD NEWS BIBLE translation.
    It should co-inside with the other books because the books of the BIble are interrelated.
    Apostles refer to the old testaments books including first 5 books (genesis to deuteronomy).
    so if you claim that there should be included, first it should be referred by the apostles but sad to say it wasn't.
    Sir this is not to slander you but ako lang hangyo sir binisay-a na lang kay mag lisod ko ug sabot sa flow sa thought sa imong statement. re post this part here in visayan.



    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    bro you can prefer anything you want but it doesn't mean its official.



    did I say I have a good back ground of theological issues?
    and mostly kindly review my post if I Post "only in the internet".
    don't presume things bro, let just discuss.

    PEace!
    this is really irrelevant, im surprised nganu kinahanglan pa jud nimo ni tubagon.

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