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    Isn't GOODNESS practiced by man including the Atheist synonymous with GODLINESS? Look up to your dictionary and you will be enlightened!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    How do you define goodness? How do you know goodness is better than being bad? What are the effects of goodness and why is there so much goodness in the universe? What makes it stand or the goal of every human to be good? What is really there in GOODNESS?
    in my own atheistic point of view..goodness is just a choice to whether manifest it or not..goodness is better than bad is because goodness is beneficial to me or to the person i helped or beneficial to both of us..


    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    What are the effects of goodness and why is there so much goodness in the universe? What makes it stand or the goal of every human to be good? What is really there in GOODNESS?
    lisod ni bro..sa goodness pa lang daan gani maglisod na ta ug define pero if you say morally good..pero still masangit ghapon ta of what is moral or immoral. For me as a human being..good isn't really my goal my goal is to live long enough...i'll only manifest goodness whenever i want to..e.g. helping people whenever i can or refusing help because i myself is in need of help or just simply i can't help..or i just don't want to go at great lengths to help someone..well it depends nlang cguro if who's asking my help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Isn't GOODNESS practiced by man including the Atheist synonymous with GODLINESS? Look up to your dictionary and you will be enlightened!
    lahi man akong definition sa god gd bro..heck i don't even believe in it pero if i am to think of a definition of a god i'd see it in a traditional way and not an impersonal thing that's for the agnostics to ponder but not me im done with that..i see it in a different way than you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramini View Post
    in my own atheistic point of view..goodness is just a choice to whether manifest it or not..goodness is better than bad is because goodness is beneficial to me or to the person i helped or beneficial to both of us..




    lisod ni bro..sa goodness pa lang daan gani maglisod na ta ug define pero if you say morally good..pero still masangit ghapon ta of what is moral or immoral. For me as a human being..good isn't really my goal my goal is to live long enough...i'll only manifest goodness whenever i want to..e.g. helping people whenever i can or refusing help because i myself is in need of help or just simply i can't help..or i just don't want to go at great lengths to help someone..well it depends nlang cguro if who's asking my help.
    Isn't GOODNESS synonymous with GODLINESS? Why choose to be good when you don't believe in GOD? Di ba? You cannot escape this eternal question. The Core of your being is GOODNESS or GODNESS coz without this, you wouldn't exist! You exist because of GOODNESS! The Universe exist because of GOODNESS! IS there bad and disorder in the entire Cosmology? or in Astronomy? Everything is GOODNESS or GODNESS my friend! Eisntein realized this in his experiments and so Stephen Hawkings too. Maybe, Dawkins is still sleeping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Isn't GOODNESS practiced by man including the Atheist synonymous with GODLINESS? Look up to your dictionary and you will be enlightened!
    wouldn't that contradict the view then sir reg that GOD cannot be confined within the definitions of "good" or "bad", which are human concepts?

    if i understand your point correctly, which seems to say that an "atheist" is either actually an agnostic, or just a confused theist denying his god-self ... hmm then if i were an atheist i am the god of a non-believer (me), making me a non-god ... i am a no god, i don't exist, validating my being an atheist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Isn't GOODNESS synonymous with GODLINESS? Why choose to be good when you don't believe in GOD? Di ba?
    no bro..that's the problem i encountered with superbisdak before..and most of the religious devout here..please don't put a copyright on goodness that it only is deserving to those who believe in either a personal or impersonal god..even though i am an atheist i am capable of being good the only difference lang cguro if superbisdak might say your kind of good is null and void because wla si kristo sa imong kasing2x i think you echo this sentiment bro reg..i can choose to manifest good or not it's my call..please bro..i beseech you to stop this way of thinking..if you want to think that goodness is synonymous with godliness then by all means do i am not in your way..PERO depriving me of using the word goodness just because i don't believe in god..is sort of preposterous and might be called discriminatory just because you believe in god either personal or impersonal and i don't doesn't give you the license to ask such a audacious question..ma hurt ko..hehe!


    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    The Core of your being is GOODNESS or GODNESS coz without this, you wouldn't exist! You exist because of GOODNESS! The Universe exist because of GOODNESS! IS there bad and disorder in the entire Cosmology? or in Astronomy? Everything is GOODNESS or GODNESS my friend! Eisntein realized this in his experiments and so Stephen Hawkings too. Maybe, Dawkins is still sleeping!
    if the main ingredient of existence is goodness then how come hitler never died when he attacked poland?..why didn't stalin die when he purged his own people?..well mabaw ra ni nga mga statements..pero you're going spiritual nman gd on this matter..i don't stand in your beliefs but i just find it flabbergasting for you to insinuate that i should stop being good because i don't believe in god..because the fact remains that goodness is synonymous with godliness..but i see it in a different way..not in my books
    Last edited by Ramini; 03-04-2009 at 01:44 PM.

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    I see everything as the manifestation of GOODNESS! Even Atheism is part of the puzzle of GOODNESS for without Atheism, there can be no THEISM! In essence, Atheism as a belief complements THEISM too and it makes sense in the whole order of the universe who is GOD ALL in ALL (Athiesm vs. Theism)

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I see everything as the manifestation of GOODNESS! Even Atheism is part of the puzzle of GOODNESS for without Atheism, there can be no THEISM! In essence, Atheism as a belief complements THEISM too and it makes sense in the whole order of the universe who is GOD ALL in ALL (Athiesm vs. Theism)
    well i'll leave you to that quest in uncovering the identity or whatever you may call it this god..so far i don't believe it..if there's any evidence that i can relate to and can evaluate and say that it has satisfied my definitions of god then i'll accept it..then consider me a believer and would gladly drop atheism..pero i am confident that there's no god..we're just trying to make sense of our existence and for the most of us they are confident in this supreme being be it personal or impersonal..that's yours i don't have any business with it pero if pangutan-on ko ninyo then my answer is of course to dismiss everything that you guys believe..not unless i am convinced..well your statement above is your own..you can philosophize it all but im content with my own that there is no god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I see everything as the manifestation of GOODNESS! Even Atheism is part of the puzzle of GOODNESS for without Atheism, there can be no THEISM! In essence, Atheism as a belief complements THEISM too and it makes sense in the whole order of the universe who is GOD ALL in ALL (Athiesm vs. Theism)
    ok, i just got zen'd out for the day

    not mocking sir reg, i really am interested in these type of views and concepts but somehow they always go over my head. keeps me wondering perhaps a joint or two might help
    Last edited by pixelwise; 03-04-2009 at 01:53 PM.

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    @pixelwise

    mao nai style ni regnauld..hehe!! nindot baya pd na...well that's his

    i think a zen monk can fill volumes upon volumes about a simple log and still sound coherent.

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