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    Very interesting. Got two of them and it was well worth the watch for three long plus hours.

    I have so much to agree with the movie although I find it distasteful to single out or parody only Christianity and Islam.

    If I were to suggest, I would have wanted it to just generalize religions as institutions oblivious to the real issues facing humanity today and their unthinking that they are actually part of the status quo.

    Overall, it was compelling and touching. At the final minutes of the Addendum, I pondered on the Herculean task of bringing about the change the Venus Project wanted to do for humanity --- to say the least, it's rather "utopic." We may not achieve it in our lifetime, but I am hopeful.

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    hey guys, you should also watch, "RELIGULOUS"

  3. #53
    after watching those movies, i suggest you guys go to the website of our Philippine Central bank, BSP and know a thing or 2 about it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red.Emano View Post
    after watching those movies, i suggest you guys go to the website of our Philippine Central bank, BSP and know a thing or 2 about it..
    I agree...most of what's presented in the movie are merely opinions and some of which may be speculations like the 9/11, the Iraqi-invasion, and etc. But I laud the movie's presentation on how misplaced the priorities have been in the US. Like the billions spent on war which could have been enough to put every teenage American to school.

    One should view the movie with a critical mind and should not embrace everything it says. Many economic /religious facts were taken in a different light that one could be carried by the notion that all institutions are in a collusion with "the establishment."

    As I pointed, it's a compelling movie no less... it gives you something to seriously think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    uu nindot kaayo... ma apply gihapon ang situation sa salida sa atong generation karon.

    "There is no America.
    There is no democracy.
    There is only IBM and ITT, and AT&T, and Du Pont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon.
    Those are the nations of the world today.
    What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx?
    They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions and compute price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, like we do.
    We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale.
    The world is a college of corporations... inexorably determined by the... immutable bylaws of business.
    The world is a business, Mr. Beale."




    he,he,he, just recalld a die hard blind religious enthusiast when i shared this video to him, he exclaimed that this movie is an anti christ, honestly i dont know if i wanted to laugh or cry w/ his reaction. but its a sad phenomenon, anything that is inconvenient to their programngs-ANTICHRIST!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    he,he,he, just recalld a die hard blind religious enthusiast when i shared this video to him, he exclaimed that this movie is an anti christ, honestly i dont know if i wanted to laugh or cry w/ his reaction. but its a sad phenomenon, anything that is inconvenient to their programngs-ANTICHRIST!
    i empathize with you. i am christian but i disown and detest the very institutions that are built upon it.

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    that's what Peter Joseph (the director of zeitgeist) was saying about religion...
    Religion puts you into a static identity and a static world view, when the reality is, the world is emergent.

    and there is no such thing as utopia, the very notion of utopia is static.
    Last edited by grovestreet; 03-03-2009 at 10:58 AM.

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    A cursory glance at widely defended historical notions, from the earth being flat to the sun revolving
    around the earth, teaches us that intellectual change is constant and, in turn, humans must keep as
    ‘open’ a mind as possible to new information, even if it challenges that person’s sense of identity. It is
    an unfortunate evolutionary side effect that in modern culture, a great deal of ego is involved with
    beliefs and values. Religion, for example, tends to hold tight to static worldviews that often reflect an
    understanding of reality that stretches back thousands of years prior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red.Emano View Post
    after watching those movies, i suggest you guys go to the website of our Philippine Central bank, BSP and know a thing or 2 about it..
    How about the Rural Bank of Subangdaku and the banks owned by Delos Angeles? Neeeks! Bankrupt or Kawat?
    Ka luoy sa mga plan holders and depositors!

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    this movie you got to see: ('c',)


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