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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    oh the munzter hates labelling.
    i dont hate it per se...it just adds boundaries, divisions....especially with the use of wrong labels.

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    If God does'nt exist, there's probably no Atheist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kowkruche View Post
    If God does'nt exist, there's probably no Atheist.
    ...if god was a natural thing, there would be no atheists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    no its not.
    check the terms reg...under theism, you still have MONO and POLY theism...are you gonna tell me, those are RELIGIONS too?


    the funny part is...non-atheists love to put labels on things they dont really understand. let me guess reg, same sources from the guys who usually misquote Einstein and JC ...and i thought you have nothing to do about them FUNDIES.

    it is necessary to keep in mind that atheism is nothing more than absence belief in the existence of gods. Atheism is not the absence of religion, the absence of belief in the supernatural, the absence of superstitions, the absence of irrational beliefs, etc. Because of this, there is no inherent barrier preventing atheism from being part of a religious belief system. So why does the confusion exist? Quite simply, most religious belief systems (especially those dominant in the West) are theistic — they include belief in the existence of at least one god and this belief is often a central, defining characteristic of that religion. It would be very difficult for a person to combine atheism with adherence to such a religious faith because doing so would require redefining the religion to such an extent that most members might not recognize it anymore.
    This is likely the reason why you will even see some atheists assuming that theism and religion are so deeply intertwined that they won't bother to distinguish between the two, using the labels almost interchangeably. However, just because most religions we encounter incorporate theism, that shouldn't lead us to assume that all religions necessarily include theism.

    You have a point!
    Last edited by regnauld; 02-27-2009 at 12:09 PM.

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    check the terms again reg, THEISM and ATHEISM are not religions.
    ...just because atheism negates or an anti-thesis to religious beliefs, doesnt mean it has to be a "religion" to do so.

    the problem with the black and white approach reg, you miss a lot of gray areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    i dont hate it per se...it just adds boundaries, divisions....especially with the use of wrong labels.
    ok you dont hate it, but you dont like it. i think thats the right label.

    whether you like it or yes, we all live in a world of boundaries and divisions. even atheist like you do have boundaries, to limit not to believe.

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    Naay Atheist Religion mao nang Buddhism ... mas maau na para ma buotan nang mga atheist

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    God is aware of atheism (unbeliever),
    Atheists are not aware of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    THEISM and ATHEISM are not religions.
    ...just because atheism negates or an anti-thesis to religious beliefs, doesnt mean it has to be a "religion" to do so.
    common misconception kaayo ni and it is very annoying most of the times...usahay ingnon paka nga ikaw god sa imong self..wla gani nituo ug god..himoon na hinoon nako akong self ug god?...haiii!!!! don't put your brains in your a$$..

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Yes Theism is a religion!
    This is wrong. Although contrasting in view, Theism and Atheism are both social concepts pertaining to the belief or denial of a a supernatural/transcendent force commonly referred to as gods, a god or God.

    Religion in its strictest and normative use defines the concept of a god or gods which are usually based on literature or popularly called "sacred scriptures," passed-on traditions and etc that have been institutionalized by its believers/follower. It also prescribes the conduct to which its believers must adhere to as well as observance to the rituals/modes of reverence for a particular deity or deities.

    Since Atheism denies any form of a god/gods, Atheism in its strictest and normative use finds no need to institutionalize anything and therefore is just another idea being left to the person who believes in it.

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