What's the Most Dangerous Martial Arts?

[Kamikaze]

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As for Kendo, no kendo dojo here in Cebu City. In Manila there is. I visited Manila Kendo Club last summer when i trained in Iwama Aikiken at Quezon City.

[Kamikaze]

Yes, at Doce Pares Club sa Sto. Nino Village Eagles St. Banilad (Martial Arts Hall) Everyday, at 5pm Korean Instructor 2nd Dan Black belt sa Kendo (I forgot his name)

Naa diay kendo sa doce pares? By the way, member ka sa doce pares? I am but wa sa ko niadto kay graduating man. Basin kita kita ra ta didto. It's been awhile since niadto ko, do you have any idea nus-a ang date para sa world championship (arnis) and asa? I know na for this year, Philippines ang venue pero wa ko kahibalo asa sa Cebu. Keep me posted please. [/quote]

I thought Koreans it called Kumdo? not Kendo

[patrixxx73]

I thought Koreans it called Kumdo? not Kendo

"The way of the Sword“. Kendo and Kumdo are the same in just about every way. For example, Kendo has the Kendo no Kata; Kumdo has the exact same thing called Bbon. Kendo has free sparring; so does Kumdo. Kendo does kirakaeshi-Kumdo does Sam dan Jak, Ie dan Jak, Il dan Jak, Parranmuri.
The Kendo method of sparring does seem more aimed at a "one cut- one point" whereas the Kumdo method is much more focused on multiple strikes. One could say it is very "hack and slash." Just like most Korean martial arts, there is not much focus on making things pretty or feel philosophically satisfying, like good zanshin, but rather the emphasis in on effectiveness. Just like The Classical Aikido and Aikijujutsu, both may have similar techniques and applications, but with different approaches and philosophies. (or perhaps a comparison between a green apple and a red apple… They may differ in color but they have the same nutrients.) Filipino or Pilipino? :mrgreen:

[AnInO]

sexy no jutso is the best... *joke lang*

[Kamikaze]

well its wrong to say that kendo is same with kumdo, because both are not the same.
aikido is not same with aikijutsu.
both maybe SIMILAR, but they are not the SAME. its wrong to say that both are same, similar yes!, but the same? no way.

[Kamikaze]

Japanese sword arts is not the same with Korean sword arts. Kumdo is already an adaptation to japanese sword arts, mixed with the Korean style the outcome Kumdo. Now is it same with kendo, its not.
take hapkido for example: its derived from aikijutsu and mixed with a Korean martial arts, now is it still aikijutsu fo Japan?
the effectiveness of Japanese sword art is with Zanshin. Zanshin is not prettyness or philoshophy.

I have a lady friend taking up Kumdo at the States for about 3 months, then transfrred to Kendo, she said thats its very different. She has to unlearn things learnt from Kumdo in order for her to learn Kendo.


Thats why, both are two different arts.

[Kamikaze]

sexy no jutso is the best... *joke lang*

now thats the best! where can i enroll?

[AnInO]

i forgot where....*smiling*

let me remember hehehe

joke lang to ha

[Kamikaze]

ha ha ha! okay now i remember

[patrixxx73]

well its wrong to say that kendo is same with kumdo, because both are not the same.
aikido is not same with aikijutsu.
both maybe SIMILAR, but they are not the SAME. its wrong to say that both are same, similar yes!, but the same? no way.

NO, it's not wrong to say that both are the same, since both Martial Arts are dealing with wooden swords... The Kendo bamboo sword, known as, "Shinai," in Japanese and "Juk Do," in Korean, is a key element of partner practice in Kumdo. The wooden sword, "Bokken," in Japanese and "Mok Kum" in Korean, is also a common training tool.

The practitioner of Kendo uses a long samurai sword or "Katana" for these drawing and striking techniques. The Kumdo practitioner performs his techniques with a long steel sword known in Korean as, "Jung Kum." Kumdo and kendo are, save for a few cosmetic differences, completely identical. Both words mean the same thing (the way of the sword), and are written in the same Chinese characters (both Korean and Japanese make use of much of the Chinese language, including the writing system). Koreans now use their native language in the sport, have changed the color of the scoring flags, and have abandoned the squatting bow (sonkyo) that is religiously adhered to by Japanese fencers. Apart from this, a viewer would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a kendo and a kumdo practitioner.

The sword art of Kumdo was inaugurated in Seoul, Korea in June 1948. With Japanese occupation lifted at the end of World War II, Korea entered into a period of rapid cultural reestablishment. Martial arts, which had been banned by the occupying forces, began to be rediscovered and new schools of martial arts were formed. Due to the long period of Japanese occupation, the Japanese understanding of martial arts influenced most of these new systems. Kumdo, was no exception.

"Kumdo," literally means, "Sword Way." Kumdo is a Korean translation of the Japanese term, "Kendo." "Ken" meaning, "Sword," and, "Do" meaning, "Way."

The Korean art of Kumdo is a direct interpretation of its Japanese counterpart. In fact, some of the early founders of Kumdo claim that there is absolutely no difference between the two arts.

The irony here is hard to miss. The Land of The Rising Sun has had a stormy relationship with The Land of The Morning Calm, most recently reflected in a bitter dispute over the hosting of the 2002 FIFA Soccer World Cup. Japan has a history of invasion attempts made famous by the great Hideyoshi's attempt to conquer the Korean peninsula in the 16th century.

What most Koreans still remember is the brutal occupation of World War II, during which Koreans were forbidden to speak their own language, forced to convert to the Japanese state religion (Shinto) and given Japanese names. Many women were forced into sexual slavery to provide accommodation for the Japanese army. Thousands were murdered and more imprisoned. Other thousands were kidnapped to provide forced labor for the Japaese war machine and never repatriated.

This brutality represented a wholesale attempt to root out all vestiges of Korean culture, and to beat the nation into the role of a Japanese satellite state. Part of this effort included the introduction of kendo to the Korean populace. Koreans took to this sport with surprising vigor. With the end of the war and the establishment of the Republic of Korea, they maintained a commitment to Japanese fencing that persists to this day. However, the old wounds of the occupation have still not healed, and in a nationwide revisionist stance, Koreans wholesale refuse to admit the sport's origins, and instead call it "kumdo," insisting that it originated in Korea.