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  1. #161

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    wrong again. did you ever study history? it wasn't muhammad who said convert or die. it was his caliphs or his followers.
    consider youre quote is true ....

    Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world.

    What happens if Jews and Christians don't want to live under the rules of Islam? Then Islam has to fight them and this fighting is called Jihad. Jihad means war against those people who don't want to accept the Islamic superior rule. That's jihad. They may be Jews; they may be Christians; they may be Polytheists. But since we don't have too many Polytheists left, at least not in the Middle East - their war is against the Jews and Christians

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    so only Christianity is the Kingdom, sir?
    Nope ... the kingdom i mention is the Kingdom of God in the Bible .

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Nope ... the kingdom i mention is the Kingdom of God in the Bible .
    you said the kingdom of god is the religion.
    ...?
    saman gyud? hehe.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by dwardwarbinx View Post
    you said the kingdom of god is the religion.
    ...?
    saman gyud? hehe.
    wa man ko nag ingon nga kingdom of god is the religion .... ako gi ingon it represent our religion

    its been qouted na ... sige lang balik

    The Kingdom of God is the Church .... the spiritual kingdom .... dili building ..

    Our Religion is Christian under the Church of Christ ...
    Last edited by amingb; 02-24-2009 at 10:48 AM.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    consider youre quote is true ....

    Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world.

    What happens if Jews and Christians don't want to live under the rules of Islam? Then Islam has to fight them and this fighting is called Jihad. Jihad means war against those people who don't want to accept the Islamic superior rule. That's jihad. They may be Jews; they may be Christians; they may be Polytheists. But since we don't have too many Polytheists left, at least not in the Middle East - their war is against the Jews and Christians
    that's a shallow meaning of jihad, sir. the real Jihad i know is the "war" against your own Lower Self.

    are you absolutely sure that Islam was born with the idea that it SHOULD rule the world? are you willing to bet your sorry @$$ on it? are you sure about it? or, maybe that's what your pastor told you?

    did it ever occur to you that this war you're saying is actually just a reaction to the violence committed against them by our christian brothers and "holier-than-thou" jews?

    jews and christians DON'T have to live under the rule of islam. islam DON'T have to fight them because there is NO NEED for the jihad anymore. don't you think this the Kingdom being meant? a Kingdom of peace and tolerance? think about it? stop thinking about what your pastor said. and start thinking for your self.

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Nope ... the kingdom i mention is the Kingdom of God in the Bible .
    what about the Kingdom of God in the Qur'an? or the Kingdom of God in the Torah? dili na sila pwede kay sa bible ra jud sir?

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    that's a shallow meaning of jihad, sir. the real Jihad i know is the "war" against your own Lower Self.

    are you absolutely sure that Islam was born with the idea that it SHOULD rule the world? are you willing to bet your sorry @$$ on it? are you sure about it? or, maybe that's what your pastor told you?

    did it ever occur to you that this war you're saying is actually just a reaction to the violence committed against them by our christian brothers and "holier-than-thou" jews?

    jews and christians DON'T have to live under the rule of islam. islam DON'T have to fight them because there is NO NEED for the jihad anymore. don't you think this the Kingdom being meant? a Kingdom of peace and tolerance? think about it? stop thinking about what your pastor said. and start thinking for your self.
    sir you are quoting this - Jihad al-Nafs

    i am quoting this - Jihad as-sayf

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    wa man ko nag ingon nga kingdom of god is the religion .... ako gi ingon it represent our religion

    its been qouted na ... sige lang balik

    The Kingdom of God is the Church .... the spiritual kingdom .... dili building ..

    Our Religion is Christian under the Church of Christ ...
    you're right, the Kingdom of God is NOT the religion. but it's NOT the representation of religion, either. you may quote whatever you like and still that would be shallow. just my opinion, try Esotericism and you'll have a Deeper Meaning in the Scriptures. it's all metaphors and allegories man gud sir. it's not to be taken literally jud. mao gani you need to get out of your box or comfort zone and EXPLORE the many Aspects of Truth. don't rely too much on the bible. it's just a book.

    okay, if you think the Kingdom of God is the spiritual kingdom, and not the building, i'll give you credit for that. BUT, it's not exclusive for christians only. if it's going to be a spiritual kingdom, don't you think other religions are also capable of being spiritual as well?

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    consider youre quote is true ....

    Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world.

    What happens if Jews and Christians don't want to live under the rules of Islam? Then Islam has to fight them and this fighting is called Jihad. Jihad means war against those people who don't want to accept the Islamic superior rule. That's jihad. They may be Jews; they may be Christians; they may be Polytheists. But since we don't have too many Polytheists left, at least not in the Middle East - their war is against the Jews and Christians
    christianity man pud bai ... "the meek shall inherit the earth" (in the psalms the phrase is used to promise king david conquest of the nations around him) ... new heaven, new earth ... return of the king (not aragorn) ...

    lain lain lang ug style kay ang christian agwanta ra man sa mintras hulat sa second coming ug sa new earth. ang islam "birthright" jud daw nila kining current nga earth ... but either way, pareho ra world domination ang tuyo.

    mohamed declared:

    "One who kills a non-Muslim person (under the guardianship of an Islamic state) will not even smell the fragrance of Paradise."

    Whoever hurts a non-Muslim person (under the guardianship of an Islamic state), I am his adversary, and I shall be an adversary to him on the Day of Resurrection.

    di man ni mahitabo nga whole world mahimong islamic, not in our lifetimes at least, pero for the sake of discussion, pasabot naay tolerance for non-muslims. sa christianity wala, sunog jud tanan nga dili christian. purged. murag bitok nga ipurga. ew. wala bitaw mass murders sa NT, kay tingob man tanan sa "new millennium".

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    what about the Kingdom of God in the Qur'an? or the Kingdom of God in the Torah? dili na sila pwede kay sa bible ra jud sir?
    The kingdom of God in Quran is Kingdom of God in Earth parihas ra meaning sa Bible ... and i think they are diffrent intity.

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