Ngano dili man mo ayo ang ginoo og amputees?

[septuagint]

I think that's one of the problem that most people are always complaining. They want to experience a miracle before they believe that GOD is really there in there lives.

You can see miracles happening in our lives daily. Like for instance, the sun that rises in east every morning and sets in the west. The air that you breath and the new life that you have experienced daily just to mention a few are manifestations that miracles are still happening in our present age and in the future, if GOD permits.

[nirdle_phogi]

I think that's one of the problem that most people are always complaining. They want to experience a miracle before they believe that GOD is really there in there lives.

You can see miracles happening in our lives daily. Like for instance, the sun that rises in east every morning and sets in the west. The air that you breath and the new life that you have experienced daily just to mention a few are manifestations that miracles are still happening in our present age and in the future, if GOD permits.

yep.. your absolutely right..

[pixelwise]

You can see miracles happening in our lives daily. Like for instance, the sun that rises in east every morning and sets in the west. The air that you breath and the new life that you have experienced daily just to mention a few are manifestations that miracles are still happening in our present age and in the future, if GOD permits.

too sensationalized. i really wish pastors don't go up the pulpit and distort facts with such flowery words ... no offense but c'mon, miracle is breaking 5 loaves of bread to feed thousands. miracle is suddenly being able to speak multiple languages so you can talk to every foreigner in the building. miracle is a cowardly ex-fisherman now able to raise the dead ... all those happened before, but not anymore.

[SioDenz]

too sensationalized. i really wish pastors don't go up the pulpit and distort facts with such flowery words ... no offense but c'mon, miracle is breaking 5 loaves of bread to feed thousands. miracle is suddenly being able to speak multiple languages so you can talk to every foreigner in the building. miracle is a cowardly ex-fisherman now able to raise the dead ... all those happened before, but not anymore.

Yeap, naa sa new testament wala na daw nang mga miracles sama sa gibuhat ni christ kay nisaka nman siya sa langit. Pero sa atu personal life, sa tagsa tagsa natu, i think naa pa ni mga miracles nga atu ma encounter. God always interact sa mga tawo nga nitawag niya. Its just that lahi lan cguro na form..

[regnauld]

What is a miracle for me may not be a miracle for you! Life is its greatest miracle! The fact that babies around the world are born every second, is a clear manifestation that GOD is not giving up on humanity! That is the greatest miracle for me!

[pixelwise]

ahem two heterosexual people have sëx and months later the woman gives birth to a baby. that's called the natural order of things, nothing extraordinary ... the mom may call her new baby "my miracle" or "my angel" or "heavenly gift" but is she really any of those things? even if the baby comes with a pair of wing bones she'll be a freak of nature but not a miracle.

the poetics are nice but sometimes all they do is cloud the truthfulness of a discussion.

[regnauld]

ahem two heterosexual people have sëx and months later the woman gives birth to a baby. that's called the natural order of things, nothing extraordinary ... the mom may call her new baby "my miracle" or "my angel" or "heavenly gift" but is she really any of those things? even if the baby comes with a pair of wing bones she'll be a freak of nature but not a miracle.

the poetics are nice but sometimes all they do is cloud the truthfulness of a discussion.

Well according to my professor in Psychology, he said there are always two people in this world as there are hundreds of perceptions of reality. You perceive the glass of water as half empty but the other one perceive the glass of water as half full and I'd rather choose the most miraculous of the two which gives life and joy. Rather than focusing on the mechanical and dry or boring concept about life, I would rather focus on the beauty of the universe like the baby's smile and falling of the leaves before a beautiful sunset. The Truth of the matter lies in our direct perception and experience not so much on explanation and rationalization!

[pixelwise]

Well according to my professor in Psychology, he said there are always two people in this world as there are hundreds of perceptions of reality. You perceive the glass water as half empty but the other one perceive the glass water as half full and I'd rather choose the most miraculous of the two which gives life and joy. Rather than focusing on the mechanical and dry or boring concept about life, I would rather focus on the beauty of the universe like the baby's smile and falling of the leaves before a beautiful sunset. The Truth of the matter lies in our direct perception and experience not so much on explanation and rationalization!

i understand. i enjoy inspirational talks as much as the next guy. the warm fuzzy feeling can be addictive. but personally i rather see, for example, this thread gear towards the medical possibility of regeneration for humans in the future, and see some believe it to be "god's answer" the way some of our technology nowadays could have been no less than miracles a couple hundred years ago. someone saying "growing new legs is a miracle, miracles don't happen" to which someone replies "no, miracles do happen (sunrise, babies, etc)" kind of pins the wrong ending to an otherwise interesting discussion.

[rodsky]

The Truth of the matter lies in our direct perception and experience not so much on explanation and rationalization!

I take pleasure in explaining and rationalizing. Does that mean I'm not enjoying life because I like to dwell on things mechanical and physical? Just knowing I know what it takes to reach the moon, because I know the laws that Kepler and Newton laid out, gives me a sense of joy--so are you saying someone who doesn't know dipshit about celestial mechanics, but can write a poem ABOUT the moon, has a far superior grasp of what it means to experience "enjoyment of life" than I?

-RODION

[regnauld]

I take pleasure in explaining and rationalizing. Does that mean I'm not enjoying life because I like to dwell on things mechanical and physical? Just knowing I know what it takes to reach the moon, because I know the laws that Kepler and Newton laid out, gives me a sense of joy--so are you saying someone who doesn't know dipshit about celestial mechanics, but can write a poem ABOUT the moon, has a far superior grasp of what it means to experience "enjoyment of life" than I?

-RODION

Not really! The cognitive experience is rather incomplete than the whole inner sanctum of your being! When you make love to your woman, you don't have to intellectualize the burning sensations that you feel towards your partner and when reaching orgasm, which is the place of no return, you don't have to say that this is just a biochemical process that I am experiencing and forgets the real pleasure of lovemaking. Sometimes being an intellectual doesn't help but just distort the reality of what is there . As J. Krishnmaurti said, when you perceive the world, look as it is not what you think it is.