Atheism Vs. Religion

[diehard96]

I would say Einstein was like a theosophist for the GOD that he used was not an anthropomorphic GOD but a Universal Principle or Consciousness that pervades the entire universe! Einstein was very theosophical for me!

maybe, IF theosophy is about nature instead of anything supernatural.

[regnauld]

maybe, IF theosophy is about nature instead of anything supernatural.

Theosophy has nothing to do about supernatural but has something to do with Spiritual Laws and Principles which include the Natural Laws of the Universe!

[The_Child]

oversimplification? or just clear insight, i think theres no perfect system, philosophy to a person who loves chaos over peace, who loves greed over justice & fairness. a system cannot exist w/o humanity who invent it...& however much we try to device a perfect sytem it would still be a failure granting the human being who will use it will mis use it. i hope im not complicating it or oversimplified it as well,

oversimplification. how in god's name could you justifiable compare a gun with a complex structure such as religion?

[Ramini]

[QUOTE=Mortred KunaiSpinner;3931913learn to tolerate. [/QUOTE]

you can't tell that to a theist that has a tendency or has already imbibed fundamentalistic ideals into his belief...your words will only fall on deaf ears..they thrive on senseless arguments that leads to bashing and mud slinging in which they are very1,000,000,000x good at..i know the drill...at first they'll give short but smug and arrogant remarks..that's the trap..then if you spring the trap..then sorry ka nlang..i fall for it many times that's why lisod na.

as to your first post..yes i do agree with you..that's why i ended my little debate with SuperBisdak..like i said to my last reply to him..we can't play in each other's playground..so that's why i had to stop it..

[Ramini]

@traditz

good..but unfortunately Hitler is christian that's his brand..murag pan-os nga pagkaon..no matter how you classify that spoiled food..no matter how spoiled or naunsa na na...it's still food..it's just not fit for eating..hilter was christian in brand but he went mad and got "spoiled" no matter how unchristian his acts were but still he was a christian..well enough with hitler..he was an a-hole!

[diehard96]

Theosophy has nothing to do about supernatural but has something to do with Spiritual Laws and Principles which include the Natural Laws of the Universe!

spiritual, from the word spirit. I don't know exactly what you mean with it, maybe the same way Einstein meant it when he wrote:
"Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds."

[tarpolano]

theists believe that god exists objectively (i.e., independent of human thought)
atheists believe that god does not exist objectively.
agnostics are not convinced of the arguments of both sides.

and now, you claim that agnostics are atheists, aw atheism diay. mejo nag lisud kog reconcile nga ang agnostics (nga mga tao) klase sa atheism (nga idea). hmmm... maybe definitions have to be updated to accommodate your idea. or maybe i'm just too dumb to understand you.

Athiests lacks the belief in the existence of a God or Deity. The keyword there is lacks. It's like this if you are a Christian you have your own definition of God right? But Muslims has their own definition of God. But as a Christian you lack belief that the Muslim God exists. So in some way you are an Atheist to the Muslim God. So in some similar fashion Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of any God or Deity. Since Agnosticism affirms that no one has knowledge on the existence or non existence of a God [lacks belief] then it has to be a subset of atheism.

[flying fish]

oversimplification. how in god's name could you justifiable compare a gun with a complex structure such as religion?

mahatma,its not that complicated, religion however complex may it appear is useless w/o a trigger man(priest,mulah,etc.),just like a gun its useless w/o somebody to trigger it..it so simple, whenevr human beings are around expect the best or the worst to unveil.

[regnauld]

spiritual, from the word spirit. I don't know exactly what you mean with it, maybe the same way Einstein meant it when he wrote:
"Great spirits have always encountered violent oppositions from mediocre minds."

Yes it could mean the Spirit or character of the person but spiritual in essence is more profound than just describing the person as spiritual. Consciousness according to quantum physics is actually in the realm of the spiritual or absolute!

[The_Child]

Athiests lacks the belief in the existence of a God or Deity. The keyword there is lacks. It's like this if you are a Christian you have your own definition of God right? But Muslims has their own definition of God. But as a Christian you lack belief that the Muslim God exists. So in some way you are an Atheist to the Muslim God. So in some similar fashion Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of any God or Deity. Since Agnosticism affirms that no one has knowledge on the existence or non existence of a God [lacks belief] then it has to be a subset of atheism.

agnosticism is not a subset to atheism.
Also, there is no such thing as pure agnosticism, it either slides to more theistic or more atheistic.

mahatma,its not that complicated, religion however complex may it appear is useless w/o a trigger man(priest,mulah,etc.),just like a gun its useless w/o somebody to trigger it..it so simple, whenevr human beings are around expect the best or the worst to unveil.

have you formally/informally studied Mahatma's 'ideology' ? Useless without a trigger man? ignorance does seem to take its toll to the anti-religious dogmatists, to generalize religion as if there is a clear definition of what religion is and how it is may or may not be different from spirituality. I dont see why mahatma came to this discussion. so whats your next 'simple' logical analogy?

Its not simple because it does not even connect. Non sequitur. Its a fallacy, no?