Originally Posted by
Mortred KunaiSpinner
Gud pm bro. Naa interesado ko sa inyong debate kai I find it educating so to speak. The reason I want to join kai I want to learn the proper defense of a Theist against the attacks of the Atheist and to avoid the erroneous bashing of the Theist against the stand of the Atheist.
So anyways...
Perhaps cguro the reason why the Crusades or Inquisition happened must have been because of Religious Fundamentalism and Radicalism. When we say fundamentalist and radicals, they are the ones who would do everything and I mean everything in order for them to achieve their goal -including religion.
During the Crusades, what is in Jerusalem that the Church wanted so badly? Easy...
Political power and dominion over the region.
In order to dominate the regions of the middle east (for trading purposes), then it is only logical to have total control over Jerusalem.
This my friend is the ulterior motive of the Crusades. The Church did it because of this reason. It was a political battle and Religion was just used for a scape goat.
Ad2 ta sa Inquisition? Asa man na time na Inquisition? Kato sa Medieval or sa Spanish Inquisition? 4 now ad2 lng ta sa Spanish Inquisition. During those time, uso kaau ang Protestantism and other break-away sects of the Roman Catholic Church. Also Spain was having problems because of Jews and Muslims and other non-Catholic Christians. For the rulers of Spain, they see these groups as a threat to the state and they must be check. So what did they do? They made the Spanish Inquisition to serve as a "secret police" in order to maintain fear and order to the society.
Ulterior motive gihapon dri, Religion is the scape goat...
Kang Hitler sad? Abnormal man na siya wa man na syay au. He will do anything to get what he wants no matter the cost. Please don't take Hitler's words that he was 'sent by God' as to be true and correct. He just said this in order to justify his damned war.
Ulterior motive gihapon dri and as always Religion is still the scape goat.
Kahinumdum mo sa quote ni Bro Bisdak sa Bible?
I think those atrocities being done in the name of Religion are condemned on this verse. Did these criminals trully did the will of the Father? I think not. Do you think otherwise?
Lingaw kaau ning Religion bro kai maau kaau ni gamiton as a scape goat and people are still doing it. Bin Laden, Jim Jones, Ecleo, Bush etc, etc, etc... Ug ang nakalingaw pa jud kai people always, ALWAYS buys it!
I've seen this kinds of debate before and almost everytime the Atheist would point out the errors of the Crusades, Inquisition, Galilieo's injustice and then the Theist would counter the mass murders being made by the Communists (Stalin, Mao, Pol Pots) blah blah blah blah blah...
My friends, this is not the correct path for this debate because this will just lead to senseless bashing.
It doesn't matter who has the many kills... The fact that you killed is still bad and I do not think there is any Religion (Kanang truest, trully, truthfully, true form anang Religion dli kanang twisted interpretation ana) that promotes death and destruction...
If you killed one of my friends, whether Atheist ka or Theist ka, you still killed my friend and you are by all means answerable to the law or to the law above. Would you believe otherwise?
So mga bros, let us move back a little and stop this wrong path for this debate. Intelligent people man kaha so let us not start a bashing contest kai murag padung nata dra.
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