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    Quote Originally Posted by KaRoger View Post
    oh really?? ang pangutanan communista ba jud sila? hahahah nadala ra mo sa black prop sa US.. pag toon mug tarong para maka sabot mo... ayaw mo comment ug mga floating nga ideas hahaha peace
    Unsa diay ni imo? Not the same as any previous or existing form of Communism? According to Animal Farm (George Orwell), they're all the same, pigs gihapon!

    Di diay ka mamatay ug nuclear fallout? Daghan man lagi nangamatay sa Chernobyl while they were under Communist rule? Para motuo mi, adto sa center of the Chernobyl disaster. Puyo usa didto para ma prove namo nga di ka madutlan ug nuclear radiation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaRoger View Post
    hahahah thats because you people can never understand that your system is weak! ^_^ and everytime you get rid of people like me, we multiply exponentially! hahahahah
    yeah our system is weak but yours is a nightmare

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    @ karoger unsa na system imo ganahan? communism? as far as i know the communism at it real essence cannot exist in the real world... wala man gyud na-exist na communist state... what exist or existed are socialist states and fascist states labeling themselves communist state... where in the world can "perfect equality" actually exist.... have you read the book YARGO? please do... its a novel...

    speaking of financial crisis and fall of capitalism... umm.. natural sa usa capitalist system ang boom and bust... kadgahan na financial crisis... the great depression, asian financial crisis.... but still the system exist...

    free market... thats capitalism...

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    because the price of oil is low.. the economic crisis is turning into tidal wave. This is a result of massive protest in Manila to lower the gasoline prices. Now, you see the result is devastating. Pinoy ra pud ang mag antus sa kalisod. Mauy unang i-fire-out. So, wala na muy trabaho.. unya mag welga na pud mo nga patas-an ang presyo sa gasolina?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaRoger View Post
    A call to action to every Proletariat Pilipinos:

    Never ever believed that the philippines is getting better with all these "GDP" B*******
    because all of these so called growth are the result of foreign walk in capital. What is that?

    Money (w/c is from the first place not capital in its strict technical definition) that comes here in the Philippines, that generates lots of profit via the use of "OUR" "( OUR= Philippine Patrimony)" "CHEAP LABOR" and "RAW MATERIALS", and eventually flies back to the "PARASITE COUNTRY" i.e US, JAPAN, EUROPE, and the entire 1st world.

    There is a deception here, because GDP counts the overall output of the economy regardless of what nationality the firms are. For example if you have an American firm producing lots of weapons for use in the killing of innocent people in Iraq or elsewhere, being produce in the Philippines, and a Filipino firm producing "banigs" and "ropes" which has a relatively LOW revenue compared to the American firm; in counting Philippine GDP, the high revenues of the American firm will boost up the country's GDP. So what's the bad thing about that? Well there is no real growth because the profits earned by the American firm will not stay in the Philippine economy to circulate, rather, it will fly out form the country thus becoming a leakage to the Philippine economy. So in short theres no real economic growth in what the government calls "High GDP"

    Its just a stupid illusion, theres no trickle down effect thats happening, theres only exploitation, abuse, and an outright violation of our constitution. Do you know that Foreign mining firms are actually violating the Philippine constitution? have you heard of the so called Patrimony of the Land? they're breaking our damn rules and were not doing anything about it... Yes they do generate jobs, but Substandard ones, and they're taking advantage of our poor labor laws which are not entirely implemented... This is NEO COLONIALISM!!! IMPERIALISM at its highest!!

    so in short im calling all Filipino intellectuals to ponder on these things, to the workers and peasants i call upon you to unite for a common cause and against a common enemy. Strike while the iron is hot! As of now the reigning Global Econmic System is going down... this is our chance to finally end the cycle of poverty an exploitation... I call upon you workers of the world to unite, we have nothing to loose but our chains!
    @ka roger

    anybody who falls in the category "Filipino Intellectual," does not linger upon obsolete praxis of the 1960-70's variety. those who do are mere poseurs or just couldnt get over the change of ideas.
    Last edited by The_Child; 02-01-2009 at 04:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    @ka roger

    anybody who falls in the category "Filipino Intellectual," does not linger upon obsolete praxis of the 1960-70's variety. those who does are mere poseurs or just could get over the change of ideas.
    You beat me to that remark hahaha.

    -RODION

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    though i think communism might be an answer to our economic crisis but it will cost our human rights...

    id rather live poor rather than living without my own free will.

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    People are shortsighted when looking at history.

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    This is where the venus project comes in.

    we are going to experience a paradigm shift.

    fascism, communism, socialism, capitalism have failed us.

    ^^people's "shortsightedness" is what put all of us in trouble in the first place.

    i recommend people to watch this video, it's a good basic lesson about capitalism. and it also talks about the flaws of capitalism.
    YouTube - Capitalism and Other Kids' Stuff - Part 1 of 6
    is the end of capitalism the end of civilization?
    or is the end of capitalism the start of civilization?

    We have to stop the patchwork and start producing solutions for the whole of humanity.
    This is a global problem.
    Last edited by grovestreet; 02-01-2009 at 09:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grovestreet View Post
    This is where the venus project comes in.

    we are going to experience a paradigm shift.

    fascism, communism, socialism, capitalism have failed us.

    ^^people's "shortsightedness" is what put all of us in trouble in the first place.

    i recommend people to watch this video, it's a good basic lesson about capitalism. and it also talks about the flaws of capitalism.
    YouTube - Capitalism and Other Kids' Stuff - Part 1 of 6
    is the end of capitalism the end of civilization?
    or is the end of capitalism the start of civilization?

    We have to stop the patchwork and start producing solutions for the whole of humanity.
    This is a global problem.
    comrade i cannot say that socialism nor communism has failed humanity the downfall of the USSR is not the cause of structural weakness in the communist ideology... i think it was due to individual errors...

    i like your comment its very down to earth.. il try to watch the vid... i myself belive that capitalism has helped us in some ways... technically socialism's transition is achieved through the conflict between workers and owners, and that will only happen in a capitalist environment.

    so in a way the capitalist stage is somewhat important...

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