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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    I'm not sure where can I connect that statement to with regards to the topic. care to elaborate?

    and speaking of ghandi.. i really like buddhist people..they are really peace loving people..i think they are peace loving people even if there lives are governed by their religion, IMHO.
    In fareness ni Ghandi wrong siya ana nga Statement coz he is commenting on fake Christian, daghan kaau na isa nako.

    What is a True Christian ?
    Last edited by amingb; 01-26-2009 at 12:41 PM.

  2. #72
    pagka-Racist nimo TS

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    supposed to contradict each other, yet they go hand in hand.
    And are those acts of corruption be rightly called Christian acts?

    name some. i'm not saying NO poverty nor war, less prevalent.
    North Korea, China under Mao (and maybe even to this day a large portion of their population still suffer from poverty), the Soviet Union under Stalin, Cambodia under Pol Pot, and of course, Germany under Hitler.

    i've seen a chart somewhere. IQ vs religiosity, crime vs. religiosity, etc...from:here
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    31.4% - Catholic
    28% - Protestant
    19.7% - None/Refused/Other
    7.6% - Muslim/Islamic
    2.5% - Native American
    1.5% - Rastafarian
    1.4% - Jewish
    1.39% - Church of Christ
    1.1% - Pentecostal
    1.1% - Moorish
    0.9% - Buddhist
    0.7% - Jehovah's Witness
    0.6% - Adventist
    0.4% - Orthodox
    0.3% - Mormon
    0.2% - Scientology
    0.16% - Atheist
    0.12% - Hindu
    0.12% - Santeria
    0.01% - Sikh
    0.009% - Bahai
    0.007% - Krishna

    Among Christian denominations, the following were studied:

    Catholic, Protestant, Church of Christ, Pentecostal, Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, Adventist, Orthodox

    Which religions had a proportionally equal amount of prison inmates?
    Jewish:
    Prison: 1.37% - 1.48%
    General: 1.28% - 1.45%
    Santeria:
    Prison: 0.068% - 0.184%
    General: 0% - 0.09%
    Bahai:
    Prison: 0% - 0.068%
    General: 0% - 0.123%
    Sikh:
    Prison: 0% - 0.073%
    General: 0% - 0.11%

    Which religions had a proportionally lower amount of prison inmates?
    Christian:
    Prison: 64.15% - 64.26%
    General: 76.56% - 76.73%
    Hindu:
    Prison: 0.0699% - 0.19%
    General: 0.29% - 0.45%
    Atheist:
    Prison: 0.11% - 0.23%
    General: 0.35% - 0.52%

    >> While the amount of atheists among the prison population is proportionally lower than the amount recorded among the general population,this only show there are less atheists in prison. Furthermore, they do not have the correlational strength between these two variables and cannot assume any kind of a causal connection. If we were to have correlational data that showed a strong relationship between these two variables then we could conclude that they were somehow related, although this would not alone tell us what was causing the relationship.
    Interesting figures, but what does that prove? Does that prove that "most bad people are products of religion-centered beliefs"? The question is, did these men commit their crimes in the name of religion? Does that argue against the Christian faith itself?

    please read your history. exterminating them jews was according to him was god's bidding. his cause, is gods cause. and you're telling me he's an atheist. please note, that your christian brothers in the academe accepted him as a christian...a BAD one, that is.
    There's this book called Hitler's Table Talk, a collection of Hitler's private opinions assembled by one of his closest aide during the war. It reveals much of what Hitler really thinks of Christianity, or religion in general.

    One historian once wrote that when Hitler was just ascending to power, he used statements like "I am doing the Lord's work," as a rhetoric to gain the support Catholic and Lutheran Germans. He himself wrote in Mein Kampf that "his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bear no relation to the truth but are designed to sway the masses." Says Allan Bullock: "Hitler had no time at all for Catholic teaching, regarding it as a religion fit only for slaves, and detesting its ethics."

    Nazi "morality" is influenced by the philosophy of Nietzsche: the "Superman" and the new ethic that is "beyond good and evil." (Not to say, though, that Nietzsche would've approved of Hitler's ideas.)

    Hitler considered Christianity to be one of the great "scourges" of history, and he saw Christian ideals like compassion, equality, love of neighbor, etc., as weak.

    Other references to Christianity by Hitler in that book:

    -- He said of the Germans: "Let's be the only people who are immunized of this disease."

    -- He promised that "through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity."

    -- He blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity.

    -- He condemned Christianity for its opposition to evolution.

    Hitler's leading advisers were also atheists who hated religion and sought to eradicate its influence in Germany.

    Another historian, Richard Evans, also wrote, "The Nazis regarded the churches as the strongest reservoirs of ideological opposition to the principles they believed in."

    Nazi policies were also very much hostile to religion. They persecuted Christian churches in Germany. Evans pointed out that after 1937 Hitler's government became increasingly anti-religious.

    The Nazis also stopped celebrating Christmas and the Hitler Youth recited prayers thanking the Fuhrer rather than God for their blessings.

    So, Hitler was very much an atheist. He wasn't a Christian just because he was born Catholic. Many people renounce their faith as they grow up.

    So if we're talking about the worse kinds of people, we need only remind ourselves of these atheist dictators and tyrants, mass murderers who had an absolute scorn for the reality of God and the dignity of human life.

    But I guess the title of the thread is about Christianity being "the worse religion out there." What is our criterion?
    Last edited by Traditz; 01-26-2009 at 03:42 PM. Reason: Typos

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    kinsa man diay mga buotan mga muslim?.. abusayaff og MILF??..

  5. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    If i may, ghandi likes jesus the christ, he just didnt like the followers of christ (who call themselves christians, but actually not following the teaching of jesus). And during his time india was oppressed by the brit; the christian dominated country.
    Becuase Ghandi only see christians on news papers and TV.. he didnt see the true christians specially those way before his time..

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    Matud pa, the Bible has all the answers...tingalig naa ra ang tubag sa Bible.

    Unsa nga verse sa Bible ang nag ingon nga ang Christianity ang worst religion?
    Ang nakanindot ani ron kay kadaghanan sa maglalis, puros nagbasa sa Bible.


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    ang tao manangil pa jud og relihiyon.

    ngano dili paman jud moangkon --- Human is the worst being out there.

    Bisan asa ka na reliyon nabutang, kung wa kay ayo, wa jud kay ayo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    hmmm..ok i see your point..but i don't see how it is connected to the topic as xtians being the worst religion. are you implying that gandhi himself said that xtianism is the worst religion based on his statement?
    Now that's interesting. Since Christians belong to Christianity, I would assume that some or most Christians need to learn and understand more about the essence of Christianity. Although, there are Christians who are striving to be like Jesus The Christ, it is good to know that these people are sincere in their beliefs. I love meeting the true and real Christian in this world who can accept and tolerate other religions and who is open to genuine dialogue with other faiths!!
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    i dont know why the author of this thread really has a bad impression of christians. religion is just a guide. after all we are our own the captain of our own ship. it's not the religion that makes a man. it's more on how we apply the teachings we learned from it.

    to the author of this thread, i am in every reason oppose to what you have claimed. makasasala kaayo ang christiano? we all are sinners unless you are too hypocrite to negate it. we all just differ in the level of sins we all do or have done.

    please respect other people's beliefs - as what others here have mentioned. christianity is a very good religion. you dont have the right to put christianity down. probably some priests, popes and some high ranking church officials before had abused their power because church and state before had not been divided. anyway who doesn't take the chance to abuse if one is in power(except for those who wants to stay righteous)? I doubt if you aint!

    i just could not picture out why you posted such baseless claim dude! it seems you are promoting your own religion and make a good source of income out of it! i just hope your soon to be believers will consider first the calculated risk before following you just like entreprenuers planning to engage a new kind of business - taking feasibility study thoroughly before investing! after all religion is still a business!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Now that's interesting. Since Christians belong to Christianity, I would assume that some or most Christians need to learn and understand more about the essence of Christianity. Although, there are Christians who are striving to be like Jesus The Christ, it is good to know that these people are sincere in their beliefs. I love meeting the true and real Christian in this world who can accept and tolerate other religions and who is open to genuine dialogue with other faiths!!

    Nice bro , change of thought thats what xtians is, to be Like Christ .. lisod mana buhaton gud kay a person want to be a Christian need to Deeply Study what a Christian is, a lot of people assume that they are Christian through there emotion and tradition but dats not what it is.

    Our own understanding is not enough we need authorized person who can truly evangelize us.

    Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart And do not lean on your own understanding.

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