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  1. #151

    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    pasaylo-a kung dong ha dili man to in particular para nimo ang statement, tubag lang to in general, didto lang ko nisulod nimo,,sa laing bahin sakto pud ka nga wala koy proof na tanan religion negosyo, i was saying that because i have my own research, & so far sa akong nasugatan na impormasyon, that any organized religion that IMPOSES their doctrines & dogmas forcibly to their followers is unquestionably questionable, now i know of ESOTERIC budhism,hinduism,yoga,christianity. but according to that information these are not the religion w/c belongs to the category of business, these are wisdom tradition veiled in different names from tradition to the other, in teir teachings you will find universality of its essence, truth, justice, fairness, brodrhood, etc. but there is no terrorism in its literature, god does not punish there,no one is condemn to hell, that everything is a the result of our own effort,,no pointing finger,, but of course human nature interfers,, the businessmen seize the oppurtunity, claim themselves as the true interpreter of religion, & there you go have filtered TRUTHS
    No need to ask forgiveness. Yeah most of the Religion tingali business but we should NOT say na ALL jud kay unfair man sa uban, wa pa gani natu nahibal-an ila religion mu judge nata.

  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    Pwede ra mn dili ka mananghid but most religious and devout RC believe that the RC Mass is the most valid and blessed mass.

    Especially if you are a traditionalist, particular kaayo ka sa validity. It is said that the most valid mass is the Latin Mass and second is the Tridentine Mass.

    nindot sad diay naa man valid mass,..kinsa man nag-ingon ani?mga kadagkuan sa simbahan ninyu?pag-boot ni sa Ginoo?or kabobot-on sa tawo lamang?

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    Pwede ra mn dili ka mananghid but most religious and devout RC believe that the RC Mass is the most valid and blessed mass.

    Especially if you are a traditionalist, particular kaayo ka sa validity. It is said that the most valid mass is the Latin Mass and second is the Tridentine Mass.
    Latin Mass? for Filipinos? unsaon man pagka Valid ana if an nitambong sa Mass way nsabtan sa Misa? Unsa man diay Purpose sa Misa sa RC? Para asa man diay anng Misa?

  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Latin Mass? for Filipinos? unsaon man pagka Valid ana if an nitambong sa Mass way nsabtan sa Misa? Unsa man diay Purpose sa Misa sa RC? Para asa man diay anng Misa?
    that's why naay tridentine mass...
    btw, OT na ta. back to topic.

  5. #155
    It could be possible that religion would overlap on the realms of business, but nowadays, what profession, what group that doesn't handle or in some sort get involve with money?

    Even charity, would be categorized as business. Even, ur personal life is business!
    look at the celebroties , they are making a lot of money from their personal life by just
    selling information.

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikage View Post
    I remember that Protestants don't like to be called as such? why is it? what's w/ the word?

    They prefer to be called Christians. I'd like to hear you out!
    Non Catholic Christian Churches are not All Protestant .... Protestant comes from the Roman Catholic Church. Other Christian Churches that build their own Church are not Protestant.

    They prefer the Christian word because they are a True Follower of Christ ( Kuno ) ... believing on Him is not Enough and cannot be consider a Christian.

    “a person professing belief in Jesus as the Christ or in the religion based on the teaching of Jesus.”

  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikage View Post
    ngeeee...... cge nalang ampo nalang kog kahoy......

    pero maayo pa ko...napay kahoy...ikaw gyud sa hangin ra...dili gyud buta rag bungol....murag b---g naman cguro...toooot..toooot

    Hebrews 11:1 says
    "Now FAITH is being sure of what we hope for and CERTAIN OF WHAT WE DO NOT SEE."


    *please notice the words in uppercase.



    Hebrews 11:6
    "And WITHOUT FAITH it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God, because ANYONE WHO COMES TO HIM
    MUST BELIEVE THAT HE EXISTS and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.



    -i hope that His Words will truly enlighten your mind. if you claim to believe in God then you must fully
    believe on what He says.


    the purpose why God gave us His Words is for us to live in line with in and
    not just to wander around. doctrines/traditions/etc are MADE by man. so if you want to know
    the truth -- turn to His Word. (thats the only sure way--people who claim to be under the umbrella
    of Christianity should believe on this. whether you're a RC or not)


    why don't you open that Bible, read it, understand, and ask the Lord to open your hearts to His truth.
    don't just sit and rely on what people say about Him you should have a first-hand
    experience of who He really is. ^__^



    and for those who claim to know and claim to be wise:

    "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
    AND EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE IMMORTAL GOD
    FOR IMAGES MADE TO LOOK LIKE MORTAL MAN and
    birds and animals and reptiles."

    Romans 1:22-23



    they are actually a lot of accounts in the bible about idolatry.
    and how God destroyed those who worshipped them [images/idols]
    most of them are in the old testament.


    ------------------------------------

    but as for me,
    MY GOD IS NOT CREATED BY HUMAN HANDS!


    how about you?


    WHO IS YOUR GOD?
    is He in a box? in a glass? in ivory and bone?
    adorned with sequins and semi-precious stones?
    dressed in silk? sewn together by gold threads?
    lifeless, dead -- deaf, mute and blind?


    now if you want to know the ONE AND TRUE LIVING GOD,
    open that Bible instead of listening to biased doctrines focusing on the worship
    of powerless images made by human hands. [these images can never substitute God
    and it can NEVER save you.]

    sad to say many people are fooled by fabricated miracles that were allegedly performed
    by these gods. the real evidence of God is found in a changed life. thats more than a
    miracle compared to those afforementioned "miracles" perfomed by gods that cannot even walk
    by themselves.


    "Yet a time is coming and now has come
    when a TRUE worshipper will worship the Father IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH,

    for they are the kind of worshippers that the Father seeks.

    GOD IS A SPIRIT, and His worshippers MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH."

    John 4:23-24 (NIV)


    in short:
    GOD = SPIRIT.
    JESUS = GOD IN FLESH (fully God and fully man)
    paglakaw ni Jesus, He gave the promised Counselor
    which is the Holy Spirit that is indwelt in every believer.
    thus a true worshipper worships in spirit and in truth.
    mao siguro you call ga worship sa hangin?
    well i dont really mind worshipping in the air and seeing nothing
    'cause thats being certain of what i do not see. and that is FAITH.

    how about you?
    who do you worship?

  8. #158
    protestants are notorious heretics.. why are they being called christian since they posted heresy against the true church? Luther made this heresy against the church and hates the latin mass. We have to pray for their conversion.

  9. #159
    naay bay gibutang nga ang simbahan sa romano katoliko ang maka luwas nimu?
    answer: WALA JUD.. the roman catholic church is the biggest cult (with billions of members).
    they teach false doctrines and they lead people to idol worship.
    and to clarify things: walay simbahan nga maka-luwas.
    we are undeserving people, but He died to redeem us.
    we have to personally accept this gift and make HIM the LORD of our lives.


    if you want to walk in faith, live according to what the bible says.



    --------------------------------------------------------------



    sama ra pud na sa mga pharisees nga dili kadawat sa teachings ni JESUS,
    they call him blasphemous.


    sama ra pud nang ga.tawag kag notorious sa mga dili katoliko.



    usahay lisod jud dawaton ang kamatuoran labaw na sukwahi jud sa imong naandan.


    pag-basa mo bible, para makahibaw mo.



    cause anybody can sit down, discuss and make their own doctrine and make a religion/church.
    but God's words are unchanging and true.


    so it is important to know what HE says about it than what your religion says about it.




    hatagi ug kabug-aton pulong sa Ginoo kaysa sa tradisyon sa tawo.

  10. #160
    What do u mean by "Christian churches that build their own church?"
    I believe they come from the 1 true church which is universal and catholic. And the name of that
    church in the present day is the Roman Catholic Church.


    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Non Catholic Christian Churches are not All Protestant .... Protestant comes from the Roman Catholic Church. Other Christian Churches that build their own Church are not Protestant.

    They prefer the Christian word because they are a True Follower of Christ ( Kuno ) ... believing on Him is not Enough and cannot be consider a Christian.

    “a person professing belief in Jesus as the Christ or in the religion based on the teaching of Jesus.”

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