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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Consider, for example, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, the world famous eighteenth century composer. At the age of four he wrote a piano concerto, a sonata and several minuets. His compositions were anything but simple, but were nevertheless technically accurate. Think about that for a moment....four years old! By the age of seven, he had composed a full length opera. So what has your child been doing lately?
    How does one explain Mozart’s genius, particularly at such an early age? Genetics? Do we carry genes that determine how well we can compose or play the piano or violin. Do genes carry the “blueprints” via DNA for a myriad of other talents? Or is there a source of intelligence, skills and knowledge, from which someone like Mozart can tap?
    Reincarnation might suggest Mozart in a prior life was a musician and a composer. This type of reasoning would say that Mozart had already accomplished much of the necessary groundwork for his skills and his genius and when he was born Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, he was well primed to begin work at a very early age.
    Hey! that was easy! Reincarnation thus explains or offers a theory to justify this musical phenomenon. It may or may not be true, but the theory does have more appeal than to simply dismiss the existence of this child prodigy by merely saying he (or she) had been blessed with innate genius or natural ability. Why, for example, should anyone be “blessed” prior to her or his birth?






    This is an example of a "higher level" of soul .
    If you are reincarnated a lot of times already
    and in those lives you accomplished your missions
    or you made good with your life
    then every time you return to God as you die,
    you earn yourself a reward.
    This rewards are in terms of additional intelligence or additional talents.
    If you already have a higher level of soul, your name can be etched in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    This is an example of a "higher level" of soul .
    If you are reincarnated a lot of times already
    and in those lives you accomplished your missions
    or you made good with your life
    then every time you return to God as you die,
    you earn yourself a reward.
    This rewards are in terms of additional intelligence or additional talents.
    If you already have a higher level of soul, your name can be etched in history.
    I'm quite confused on what you mean by this. Can you please elaborate what "higher level of soul" means? Does this means you are a good person? Coz I think there are many bad people who made there name appear in History. Say hitler. He was quite a brute (as far as history says). Does this mean he has a higher level of soul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    hahaha. sir regnauld, i give you a salutation befitting your qualifications ("sir"), and you mock me with ridiculous/outrageous salutation ("professor"). very responsible of you sir. first and foremost, did i say that no university offers metaphysics? could you quote that sir? i believe i said no university offers REINCARNATION SCIENCE because it is not scientific in the first place.


    spiritual science is an oxy***** sir. science is the study of the physical aspect of the world.


    science, by definition sir, is any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation. In general, a science involves a pursuit of knowledge covering general truths or the operations of fundamental laws. science "measures".

    YOU MIGHT WANT TO STUDY THIS LINK PROFESSOR! The Origins of Natural Science, GA# 326 by Rudolf Steiner, A Spiritual Science ARJ2 Review by Bobby Matherne

    trust, is more inclined to FAITH rather than SCIENCE. get your ideas straight sir. bible scholar? haha. you don't know what degrees i have achieved sir, yet your immature mind concludes such?


    very far fetched sir. i never asked for the meaning of psychology.


    again, "theories", not "laws". is that so hard to comprehend?


    i'm very sorry sir, you seemed pretty confident, i thought you knew what you were saying. forgive me for having expected much from you.


    so are they more credible than most physicists in the scientific community?


    having lots of evidences is useless unless the entire scientific community accepts this evidences. in a court case, having numerous evidences against a person neither acquits or convicts him. having CREDIBLE AND ACCEPTED EVIDENCES do.


    did i say that human consciousness do not exist? please quote that part sir.

    CONCLUSION:
    reincarnation is a belief that some essential part of a living being (in some variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new body. a BELIEF. reincarnation was NEVER a science. again, to repeat, a BELIEF. i have nothing against people with such beliefs, for who am i to judge. it may be factual, or maybe fictional, but to put it irresponsibly as an inarguable scientific fact, well, that's incorrect in every sense.


    there is nothing more to argue here. I REST MY CASE.

    cheers.
    Thank you very much mr. brilliant professor for your enlightenment! By the way you are not so familiar with Past Life Regression Therapy, am I right? Maybe you want to subject yourself to this method to know your PAST LIFE. Anyway, you will not be conscious and all your statements will be recorded without your awareness. This is very exciting for you a great skeptic on reincarnation who is still tied up with the old school of Newton's Physics!

    Watch this video first Deepak Chopra Interview with Richard Dawkins YouTube - Deepak Chopra Interview with Richard Dawkins

    Let us define SPIRITUAL SCIENCE if there is such a science.

    Spiritual science refers to the application of scientific methodology to experiences or phenomena of mind, culture or spirit. Interest in such an application arose widely at the end of the nineteenth and beginning of the twentieth century. Edmund Husserl, for example, wrote in 1935: Edmund Husserl Edmund Gustav Albrecht Husserl (April 8, 1859 - April 26, 1938, Freiburg) was a German philosopher, known as the father of phenomenology. ...
    It is my conviction that intentional phenomenology has for the first time made spirit as spirit the field of systematic scientific experience, thus effecting a total transformation of the task of knowledge.[1] The term spiritual science is a translation from the German "Geisteswissenschaft" (pl. "Geisteswissenschaften"), which arose as a translation of John Stuart Mills' reference to "moral sciences". The term is also translated as human studies, the humanities, cultural studies or the social sciences.[2] Its literal meaning, however, is the sciences of the mind or spirit. It is not meant to be a branch of natural science. John Stuart Mill (May 20, 1806 - May 8, 1873), aka JS Mill, an English philosopher and political economist, was the most influential liberal thinker of the 19th century. ... The lunar farside as seen from Apollo 11 Natural science is the study of the physical, nonhuman aspects of the Earth and the universe around us. ...

    Spiritual science is often used as a synonym for anthroposophy. The latter, however, refers more narrowly to the work of Rudolf Steiner and the movement connected with him, while spiritual science refers more broadly to any research that uses the methodology of science to explore cultural, human or spiritual experience.

    See? SPIRITUAL SCIENCE EXISTS! Spiritual science - Religion Dictionary and Research Guide

    And for your additional information (don't expose much your ignorance professor) SPIRITUAL SCIENCE includes the The Seven Branches of Philosophy:
    1. Metaphysics
    (theology, cosmology and nature of being)
    2. Logic
    (the doctrine of reasonableness)
    3. Ethics
    (morality and character)
    4. Psychology
    (the whole field of mental phenomena) - Reincarnation and NDE's are part of this!

    5. Epistemology
    (the essential nature of knowledge itself)
    6. Esthetics
    (reactions to beauty, harmony, elegance and nobility)
    7. Theurgy
    (doing the work of God).
    And by the way professor your definition about the mind is inaccurate and therefore, you need to study THE ANATOMY OF THE MIND. Just for your info. Is there such thing as SPIRITUAL SCIENCE aside form Material Science? YES! go to this website and study their different research.

    Spiritual Science Research Foundation


    WHAT IS SPIRITUAL SCIENCE?

    The Art of Conscious Living
    The word spirit comes from the Latin spirare, breath, the animating force within living beings, the soul. The word science comes from the Latin scire, to know, and is defined as knowledge derived from the observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena. Therefore, spiritual science is a process whereby knowledge of the soul is derived from a systematic study of the things we perceive with our senses including the intuition.
    Copyrighted by
    Manly P. Hall.

    From Bacstrom's Original Alchemical Manuscripts (specially redrawn).
    The Emerald
    Tablet of Hermes.

    Dr. Sigismund Bacstrom describes the Emerald Tablet of Hermes as follows: "The Sense of this Tablet may sufficiently convince us that the Author was well acquainted with the Secret Operations of Nature, and with the Secret Work of the Philosophers; he likewise well knew and believed in the True God.
    Spiritual science has no doctrine or scripture. It is the study of all religions and belief systems, taking from them the best that each has to offer. Spiritual science also includes the practice of meditation and constant observation of one's thoughts, words and deeds. It is a disciplined philosophical way of life. Philosophy is defined as the perfect science and the science of perfection. The word philosophy means friendship for or love of wisdom. Those who study and practice spiritual science are lovers of wisdom, whose lives are devoted to the discovery and application of truth. Plato wrote, "Philosophy is the greatest good which the gods have conferred upon men."
    From his wonderful book, First Principles of Philosophy, Manly P. Hall writes: "By philosophy we can live wisely and die well. Those who perfect themselves in wisdom are called twice-born, for by wisdom, man is given a new birth. He departs from the old life with its uncertainties and limitations into a new illumined existence. Love rules the sphere of the wise. Those who have learned to love life in its deepest and most mystical senses have escaped from bondage of fear and dwell in peace with all things."
    Spiritual science is an open-ended system of thought. It continually grows as humankind evolves, drawing on the frontiers of human knowledge as well as the wisdom of the ages. It works in harmony with the basic tenets of all the world religions. It teaches that each individual is a divine being who is the master of his or her own destiny.
    The teachings hold each individual responsible for his or her thoughts, words and deeds. To the degree that each individual connects with the Divine determines the degree of success, harmony and peace of mind in one's life. Spiritual science encourages the individual to think, not what to think. The goal is not to teach what to believe but rather why we believe the things we believe. There is no emphasis on a particular path to take in order to become spiritually enlightened. Instead, it simply explains that we are all on one path or another, each path leading in the same direction, toward self-realization and God-Realization. It is the Wisdom of the Ages, preserved and passed down by great thinkers and sages to those who are ready to truly and sincerely learn the art of conscious living.
    As a religion, spiritual science is a metaphysical expression of the universal truths revealed in all world religions. All religions are acknowledged as having value in their teachings. In spiritual science you are likely to hear quotes from The Buddha, Jesus, Matthew Fox, Deepak Chopra, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Mohammed and Confucius.
    As a philosophy, spiritual science is a practical, easily applied way of thinking about the nature of the universe and our relationship to it. When we understand ourselves to be both creations and co-creators of the universe, we are then capable of expressing the unlimited potential within us.


    Spiritual Science includes:

    The Seven Branches of Philosophy
    1. Metaphysics
    (theology, cosmology and nature of being)
    2. Logic
    (the doctrine of reasonableness)
    3. Ethics
    (morality and character)
    4. Psychology
    (the whole field of mental phenomena)
    5. Epistemology
    (the essential nature of knowledge itself)
    6. Esthetics
    (reactions to beauty, harmony, elegance and nobility)
    7. Theurgy
    (doing the work of God).
    As a science, spiritual science practitioners systematically apply their spiritual knowledge to their daily lives through individually tailored techniques. This discipline expands understanding and awareness of the laws of nature and the human condition. The ultimate goal for those who engage in the study and practice of spiritual science is service to humanity and all other forms of life. By surrendering to a life of selfless service, the individual teaches by example and does the work of God.
    Marian Wright Edelman said,

    "Service is the rent each of us pays for living -- the very purpose of life."


    PEACE TO ALL RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD!

    P.S.
    Abstract Evidence based spiritual care utilizes empirical evidence on spirituality in addressing the spiritual needs of patients. Objections to evidence based spiritual care include issues of methodology and ethics. Reasons favoring evidence based spiritual care stem from a view that it is not an oxy***** but a paradox. An example of evidence based spiritual care is described using cardiac patients in a CCU unit. Concluding remarks note that we are at the beginning and need a new scientific/theological paradigm that integrates not separates science and theology.
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    ^^can you have PEACE for the Catholic Church?

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    ^^can you have PEACE for the Catholic Church?

    Are we enemies? we are only discussing here and if I beg to disagree with the doctrines of the church does that mean I don't have PEACE with the Catholic Church?

    Do you know the meaning of PACEM IN TERRIS, the Encyclical Letter issued by Pope John XXIII?

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    YouTube - Reincarnation-Regression (banned video) 1/11

    When I first watched this video, I couldn't believe it maybe it was just a fake or propaganda but I was convinced how the author explained and made this in his book and research. Remember this video was BANNED in Australia. Ngano kaha? Is there something wrong in Reincarnation nganong gi BANNED before? See it for yourself!

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    kinsa kha ni regnauld... I salute you! You're great! Nag study gyud kag maayo..hehhe

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Are we enemies? we are only discussing here and if I beg to disagree with the doctrines of the church does that mean I don't have PEACE with the Catholic Church?
    how can you attain peace if you have disagreement?
    it seems your answer has a double meaning to me.. anyway peace be with you my friend..

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Do you know the meaning of PACEM IN TERRIS, the Encyclical Letter issued by Pope John XXIII?
    dont ask me. feed me with your fruitful knowledge reg..

    and besides, if i know the meaning it doesnt give me much reward from heaven...

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    hahaha. sir regnauld, i give you a salutation befitting your qualifications ("sir"), and you mock me with ridiculous/outrageous salutation ("professor"). very responsible of you sir. first and foremost, did i say that no university offers metaphysics? could you quote that sir? i believe i said no university offers REINCARNATION SCIENCE because it is not scientific in the first place.


    spiritual science is an oxy***** sir. science is the study of the physical aspect of the world.


    science, by definition sir, is any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation. In general, a science involves a pursuit of knowledge covering general truths or the operations of fundamental laws. science "measures".


    trust, is more inclined to FAITH rather than SCIENCE. get your ideas straight sir. bible scholar? haha. you don't know what degrees i have achieved sir, yet your immature mind concludes such?


    very far fetched sir. i never asked for the meaning of psychology.


    again, "theories", not "laws". is that so hard to comprehend?


    i'm very sorry sir, you seemed pretty confident, i thought you knew what you were saying. forgive me for having expected much from you.


    so are they more credible than most physicists in the scientific community?


    having lots of evidences is useless unless the entire scientific community accepts this evidences. in a court case, having numerous evidences against a person neither acquits or convicts him. having CREDIBLE AND ACCEPTED EVIDENCES do.


    did i say that human consciousness do not exist? please quote that part sir.

    CONCLUSION:
    reincarnation is a belief that some essential part of a living being (in some variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new body. a BELIEF. reincarnation was NEVER a science. again, to repeat, a BELIEF. i have nothing against people with such beliefs, for who am i to judge. it may be factual, or maybe fictional, but to put it irresponsibly as an inarguable scientific fact, well, that's incorrect in every sense.


    there is nothing more to argue here. I REST MY CASE.

    cheers.
    Quote Originally Posted by marber View Post
    kinsa kha ni regnauld... I salute you! You're great! Nag study gyud kag maayo..hehhe
    Thank you. I am a SEEKER AFTER TRUTH my friend just like you. WE ARE ALL ONE because WE HAVE ONE GOD! "NO RELIGION IS HIGHER THAN TRUTH." PEACE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    how can you attain peace if you have disagreement?
    it seems your answer has a double meaning to me.. anyway peace be with you my friend..



    dont ask me. feed me with your fruitful knowledge reg..

    and besides, if i know the meaning it doesn't give me much reward from heaven...
    PEACE is acceptance despite of our disagreements. We are here to AGREE to DISAGREE! Does that makes sense to you? You always have the right to disagree with me and I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY because I am here to AGREE to DISAGREE. After all, you are still my friend.

    PACEM IN TERRIS is PEACE ON EARTH! Pope John XXIII wrote this very famous encyclical letter to inform all the Catholics to have INTERFAITH discussion and dialogue with other religions since the VATICAN II. Blessed John was very positive that ALL RELIGIONS leads to the same destination who is GOD.
    Last edited by regnauld; 01-22-2009 at 03:51 PM.

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