Did Jesus really ascend into heaven?

[regnauld]

@reg: atheist ka brad? sa line of questioning nimo, mga claims nimo klaro man au nga atheist ka.... of course oi, jesus ascended into heaven... u may not believe it kay sa atong panahon rn, dghan na au ug mga speculations ang mga tao, dghan na imbento... sa kdgahn ug imbento hasta ang time tested truth nga nasa bible dudahan na... wake up to the truth dude!!! or basin feeling nimo cool ka tungod sa imung mga insensible claims!!!

Pangutan-a sila kung atheist bako! It's not my insensible claims my friend! It was claimed by some scientists, historians and bible scholars that Jesus died and did not ascend into heaven!

[GrEenOCIDE]

Pangutan-a sila kung atheist bako! It's not my insensible claims my friend! It was claimed by some scientists, historians and bible scholars that Jesus died and did not ascend into heaven!

naa napud ta anang mga sulti2x sa taw reg, pwede bible ato gamiton reg?

[regnauld]

you don't use science to prove/disprove faith. it cannot be done. there were attempts, but all in futility. science cannot go beyond logic and reason. that's why there is faith. truth in faith can only be found in faith itself. in faith, there is no reason, there is no logic. there is just... faith.


the Roman Catholic Authorities has had their ups and downs. in fact, PJPII apologized for some unreasonable acts by the RC Authorities. the Roman Catholic Church is not GOD, therefore it is subject to human fallibility. and no, this is not a question on papal infallibility.


discriminating the credibility of one does not help lift up the credibility of the other.

I didn't say faith is bad. What I'm saying is that FAITH without SCIENCE is BLIND! And you are right we cannot prove the unknown that's where we use FAITH because without it is also LAME!

[GrEenOCIDE]

I didn't say faith is bad. What I'm saying is that FAITH without SCIENCE is BLIND! And you are right we cannot prove the unknown that's where we use FAITH because without it is also LAME!

kinsay gaingon reg nga faith w/o science is blind?

[NASYO]

Aside from Jesus, only science can answer that!

who is science? a man made explanation?

[NASYO]

I didn't say faith is bad. What I'm saying is that FAITH without SCIENCE is BLIND! And you are right we cannot prove the unknown that's where we use FAITH because without it is also LAME!

abi nako'g wala kay faith. naa man diay.

cultivate lang faith nimo bro.

we'll see each other on the same end..

[regnauld]

abi nako'g wala kay faith. naa man diay.

cultivate lang faith nimo bro.

we'll see each other on the same end..

I even have a faith in you bro kay ni exist ka diri sa Istorya.net but I also want to know bro kung unsa imo tinuod pagkatawo kung student ba ka, minyo ba, satnd by ba, lalaki, babaye or bading ba kaha! that's simple science bro!

[regnauld]

kinsay gaingon reg nga faith w/o science is blind?

FAITH WITHOUT SCIENCE IS BLIND. - Francis Bacon

[jigsaw_0219]

Pangutan-a sila kung atheist bako! It's not my insensible claims my friend! It was claimed by some scientists, historians and bible scholars that Jesus died and did not ascend into heaven!

mao na dha... mas mo-prefer ka sa mga quotes sa ubang taw kesa sa nakasuwat sa bible.... i'd rather believe in the bible kesa sa mga sulti2x sa mga taw nga dli mutuo ug Ginoo.

[GrEenOCIDE]

FAITH WITHOUT SCIENCE IS BLIND. - Francis Bacon

kinsa man pud na c francis reg?