Life abroad is not paradise.

[raleigh_joan]

@fruit salad: Love for material things... the greatest logic in going abroad.

this isn't really the case for most people.. well at least for a lot of people i know, our main reason why we left the country is because we want to experience more in this life and live life the way we want it -- young, free and independent.. yes, earn good money to enable us to travel and explore more. we just love to experience and see new things.. we just wanted to broaden our horizon while figuring out what we really want to do with our lives (which btw, most of us has already figured it out and has already settled down).

while it's also true that money also helps our families back home and help other relatives in need, we are not actually here for materialistic gain. we are here to experience life and a comfortable one at that which sadly our country can't offer. why i say it's not comfortable there? even if u have the money u really don't get to enjoy good service all the time and u don't feel safe going to any place as someone might just snatch ur belongings or worse, hadlok ka ma hold-up. the living and comfort isn't just the same..

[chad_tukes]

There is no Comparisson of an Illegal Resident from that of a Legal One, no matter which country you belong, although our beloved Philippines and any third world Country has not much of a problem like these because our Politicians did not bother to tightly regulate our Immigration policy, majority of which either aides their currupt system anyways out of bribery.

The Issue is, if a foreign land is not paradise as one might think.....well, Philippines is not a Paradise at all, PERIOD.

Look around you (not probably where fruit salad and chad is ), but from where I am, I dont know......

no comparison?? lol.

being illegal and being LEGAL in a foreign country are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.. if they're different, of course there is a COMPARISON.

for example: JENNESSEE is a legal permanent resident in the US. raleigh_joan came in the US through a US tourist visa. releigh decided to overstay so she can find an under-the-table job. as a direct result of her job, she ends up not paying taxes. not paying taxes is interrelated to the lack of benefits her job can provide. Jennesse, on the other hand, is employed in a Fortune 500 company. he's got health insurance, 401K, life insurance, etc. he pays taxes and stuff. BENEFITS ALL COVERED BY THE COMPANY. since he is a permanent resident, he gets all the perks.

see the difference? so there is a comparison.

now tell me, can raleigh_joan experience the "paradise" that jennessee is experiencing? NO. unless raleigh_joan is brave enough to marry an American guy and make her a legal resident like jennessee.

corruption? corruption is always there no matter where you are. the only difference is, Philippine corruption most often go unnoticed---that's why we never go forward.

[mrxxxx]

pero uban taw dli sabot unsa life sa abroad.feeling nila nag baha kwarta kung abroad ang bana or whatever...hhehehee

[chad_tukes]

my advise to those who want to work abroad - set a certain profession or job that you want to do then gain a good experience there in pinas related to that position or field u want to apply abroad. also attend seminars, trainings and short courses that could help you arm yourself with the competitive job market here. develop good communication skills and always be confident in urself. that's what i've noticed on people who made it abroad and those who did not. although it's not always the case coz again, there are people who are just born lucky i guess.. lol.. but seriously, those that i know who doesn't have special skills or any good work background in the philippines hardly make it here. i know some people here who ended up working in some jobs that they didn't expect to be in and are being underpaid.

goodluck to us all!

note the bold letters: you know why this is happening? it's the pinoy mentality. they go abroad and make themselves INFERIOR to others. why get your background in the Philippines when you can get it ABROAD? if you don't have a good background back in your home country, you hardly make it here because you don't do something about it.

i myself, came in the US without anything. but i NEVER, take note NEVER, ever view myself as INFERIOR to other Americans. i finished college here and landed a decent job. i know many pinoys here who are the complete opposite. they've been here for 10-15 years and they still do the same underpaid blue collar job that they've been doing forever.

that's why they HARDLY ever make it here. it's the perseverance and confidence that gets you high.

[fruit salad]

To want to have a comfortable life honestly really entails material things, to what extent, of how much? that is up to us, I'm not saying it is bad, it is human. I am also in the States, manaway ta kung manaway ta sa atong gigikanan mura ta'g mga kinsa? Let's face it, there's no place like home. Unless you are filthy rich here that you can hire babysitters and housekeepers. LoL. Pinas yahay ang life, naay tigluto, tighugas, tiglaba, tigbantay bata. Majority of people do not worry about home mortgage, makakaon sa tulo ka adlaw ok ok na. You go home from work, maka relax pa ka. It is way way different. Mas stressful ang life diri. I think we have to be a little careful comparing our home country, really. Then what if we eat apples and oranges, and green salads here, or grapes? In the Philippines we have bananas, mangoes, fresh vegetables, fresh fish and meat. Kaysa diri kasagaran frozen. Daghan pang mga taga bukid dugay mangamatay kay presko nga food kinaon nila permi. Kini hinuong sige kaon ug kaon sa datu, magkasakit ug sakit sa datu. LoL.

When we grow old, do you think guys that we still would want to live here? Nyikes! We have to open our eyes to the reality that nobody cares here when you grow old. Di na siguro ta li-lion sa atong mga anak, walay time kay busy pud sila pangita kwarta bayad sa ilang mga obligasyon. Mga tigulang diri mangamatay lang sa ilang mga balay abtan ug simana before mahibal-an because they're living alone. Tsk tsk. Mao ni mga butang nga we ignore... mao ni mga reasons why living abroad is not paradise.

Are we forgetting that we Filipinos are one of the happiest people in the world? I'm sure those are Filipinos who are in the Philippines. Depende ra gyud unsa'y choice nimo sa imong life ba. You can be happy and comfortable if you are contented.

I have to disagree in the thought that undocumented people in the States are no different than the documented ones. Nyikes! Can you go to school if illegal ka? Nope. Can you open a bank account? Nope. After 9/11 no illegal alien can open a bank account without a social security number, no illegal alien can have health insurance because they ask for that number as well. Health insurance is very very very important. We don't know what will happen in the future, especially if we have kids. Yup dawaton tuod sa hospital pero ig gawas nimo lubong ka sa utang. There's a difference really. Samot na dili katrabaho ug tarong, can't apply for good companies. There is a difference. But I salute these Filipinos because it takes so much courage to be a babysitter or tig kuskos sa kasilyas diri when back home they used to be teachers. And these people are times very selfless.. they do it for their family not for themselves.

[abay_006]

i still love to work abroad...

[jennesse]

no comparison?? lol.

being illegal and being LEGAL in a foreign country are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.. if they're different, of course there is a COMPARISON.

for example: JENNESSEE is a legal permanent resident in the US. raleigh_joan came in the US through a US tourist visa. releigh decided to overstay so she can find an under-the-table job. as a direct result of her job, she ends up not paying taxes. not paying taxes is interrelated to the lack of benefits her job can provide. Jennesse, on the other hand, is employed in a Fortune 500 company. he's got health insurance, 401K, life insurance, etc. he pays taxes and stuff. BENEFITS ALL COVERED BY THE COMPANY. since he is a permanent resident, he gets all the perks.

see the difference? so there is a comparison.

now tell me, can raleigh_joan experience the "paradise" that jennessee is experiencing? NO. unless raleigh_joan is brave enough to marry an American guy and make her a legal resident like jennessee.

corruption? corruption is always there no matter where you are. the only difference is, Philippine corruption most often go unnoticed---that's why we never go forward.

comparisson and differentiation.

I can see the difference, but to "compare" apples from banana does not make sense.

The missive to the article is saying that "America" or any foreign land, although its not mentioned, is not a paradise at all.
My understanding, the writer is trying to inform the reading public that life in "America or in Canada, or In Bitish Island" is not what some people imagine as paradise. This is very DISCOURAGING especially to the young whose main purpose in life is to achieve a better and fruitful years as they become an asset to the society.
My opinion states that the writer could have improve his intention with less discouraging impact to the ambitious society.
In contrast to what he describes as paradise is not realistic. People who did not get the luxury of being away from the Philippines knows and believes even just up to their imagination. In general, a Doctor who has the best practice here in the Philippines still persevere to become a Nurse in America for no other reason except with the knowledge that both earnings and opportunity iS far better than what he currently have, now thats COMPARISSON.

On the other hand, even to an illegal migrant in America, they have the chance to live a decent life. This could not be compared from that of a Practicing Doctor, or a Nurse or a Teacher. Whereas in the Philippines, even you are a Bachelors degree (too many to mention) fullpledge, licensed. Just even to practice such profession is too steep to achieve in the Philippines.

which one is paradise now?

Lets see: a "Nanny" earns a decent $10/hr for 12 hours or at least $1500 every 2 weeks if you are in house with a weekend off.... Where, and how, and who is in the Philippines who earns this DECENT JOB WITH DECENT INCOME?

Translation: at the current rate of 47 to a dollar...that 470 pesos per hour....5640 peso a day ...70500 peso per 2 weeks....TAX FREE!

I hope the writer is aware about this.

Living expenses...... An average american earns $8 dollars per hour, at 80 hours per 2 week...thats $ 640 or $1280 per month.....Do the nanny who has no paper is an average earner? is this paradise?

I can explain further, but I dont want to insult anyones capcity to understand.

If you are indeed living in America, you probbably have seen the ones who does not enjoy such paradise but what i am saying is the chance and oppotunity is far more better than we have here in the Philippines.

[chad_tukes]

comparisson and differentiation.

I can see the difference, but to "compare" apples from banana does not make sense.

toink. a COMPARISON is to show how things are SIMILAR or DIFFERENT. if two things are different, they are COMPARABLE.

The missive to the article is saying that "America" or any foreign land, although its not mentioned, is not a paradise at all.
My understanding, the writer is trying to inform the reading public that life in "America or in Canada, or In Bitish Island" is not what some people imagine as paradise. This is very DISCOURAGING especially to the young whose main purpose in life is to achieve a better and fruitful years as they become an asset to the society.
My opinion states that the writer could have improve his intention with less discouraging impact to the ambitious society.
In contrast to what he describes as paradise is not realistic. People who did not get the luxury of being away from the Philippines knows and believes even just up to their imagination. In general, a Doctor who has the best practice here in the Philippines still persevere to become a Nurse in America for no other reason except with the knowledge that both earnings and opportunity iS far better than what he currently have, now thats COMPARISSON.

you clearly misinterpreted the article. the author did not say living abroad is not a paradise AT ALL, but rather, he was trying to change the pinoy perception that living abroad, no matter how bad the job, is PARADISE because the amount of money earned. there's a difference.

your way of thinking gives me the impression that you're one of the typical Filipinos who doesn't give a rats ass about our country, who will do anything to get to a foreign land, and would do any job possible to get the money to satisfy his wants. TAKE NOTE: i'm not saying that's who you are, that's just my impression of you. again, there's a difference.

On the other hand, even to an illegal migrant in America, they have the chance to live a decent life. This could not be compared from that of a Practicing Doctor, or a Nurse or a Teacher. Whereas in the Philippines, even you are a Bachelors degree (too many to mention) fullpledge, licensed. Just even to practice such profession is too steep to achieve in the Philippines.

di na lang ko mu comment ani, coz clearly you don't have any idea what you're talking about. an illegal having a decent life? what's your definition of decent? remember that NOT ALL ILLEGALS are living a decent life in AMERICA.

Living expenses...... An average american earns $8 dollars per hour, at 80 hours per 2 week...thats $ 640 or $1280 per month.....Do the nanny who has no paper is an average earner? is this paradise?

living expenses largely depends on the state you live in. i can earn 7 dollars/hour in Upstate, NY, own a house with all the mortgage, and still be okay. however, if i earn the same amount and live in NYC, then i'd be renting a very small room and i would barely make the rent.

so, 1280 dollars per month might be high in some states, but low on most. your logic doesn't make sense.

[YJOB]

if life abroad is not paradise, whoever said that should come home and stay here.
barugi inyo gisulti

[chad_tukes]

if life abroad is not paradise, whoever said that should come home and stay here.
barugi inyo gisulti

yeah, like it's the EASIEST thing in the world.