Gaza war

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

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@malic



there exist a palestinian nation but not a palestinian state. there is of course a difference between a nation and a state. a nation is group of people sharing or having the same culture and history while a state has five characteristics population, territory, international recognition, sovereignty and government.

a state can be composed of different nation... so an israeli state is different from a jewish nation although an israeli state can be composed of a palestinian nation and jewish nation.

the state of isarel is not made up only jewish people, but there are actually muslim and arab-citizens in israel and christians also.

as ia see it the jews and the palestinians can co-exist together in one territory to form one state... which the hamas and some islamist extremist dont like to accept.

although i may say over-kill ra kaayo ang israel sa ila gibuhat, but then again.... kung ikaw ang naa s alugar sa israel... you're a soverign state what would you do? show your power and might, economically disabled the city and the hamas will have a diffiult time to rebuild the city... giving more time for israel to have full control of the territory.


innocent people always die in wars. they are the collateral damage. but for an amoral state making a point across a terrorist group they are merely means to an end...

honestly, talawan kaayo ang hamas ky kung muatake pina-agi ug suicide bomber... when israel step for the challenge and made it into a full scale war they are saying its not right....

the UN has no power... a resolution can do nothing, its merely an opinion from the UN...

[Malic]

@Malic
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Pls tell your brothers in mindanao to release the red cross personnel that they abducted..

Israel has the right to defend its self..

Sheep into a wolf? or maybe the wolf is just wearing a sheep costume, with suicide vest strap on its body and a rocket launcher on his shoulder.. That's why Israel is hunting the wolf aka the sheep who been launching missile indiscriminately on Israel..

Before Hamas, Palestine and Israel have some agreement to maintain peace at the territory, but when Hamas won the election, they been killing there fellow muslim brothers especially those who oposes there ideas (how can you trust this guys, they dont hesitate killing even there muslim brothers, unsa pa kaha kung di muslim, wala na jud sila paki) and if you look deeper on Hamas, you can see kung kinsa ga support nila, mga group na identified terrorist..

LOLZ why not tell your christian/atheist brothers to stop raping their own children.

they are launching missiles as a sign of resistance to the oppression brought by Israel on their people. No serious injuries actually happened contrary to what the propaganda said.

ah,hahahaha,WRONG again! ignorant indeed. when Hamas won the election Israel sponsored the blockade with an intention of killing the Hamas govern Gaza economically.tsk tsk!!!

Hamas fought against the Fatah because Fatah were sponsored by Israel.

ang nag support sa Hamas are organizations that believe Palestine must be free from the oppression.

[Malic]

Mao nay problema sa tao, gusto ug gubat pero tago-tago style. Daghan klase nga tao pareha aning hamas. MANGUNA O MANGHAGIT UG AWAY, PANGHILABOT O BUGAL-BUGAL PERO KUNG TINUD-ON MO-PASOK SA SUOK, MAGKUROG SA KAHADLOK. DAGHAN RA BA NGA KLASE SA TAW KARONG PANAHUNA. MANGHILABOT GANI TA KANANG KA-SUSTENER SAB TA.

tago man gani pod ang israel hahahahaha. Mga militia ra na sila sir nya gamay ra na sila kung ato e compare sa Israel but mosukol na. Hadlok gud tawn,LOLZ

The first push was unsuccessful. mao ng balik na pod sila sa air attacks ug distance attacks. tsk tsk...hadlok ug ground combat?

ngano sir,naka daug na ang Israel? Now Israel is pushing for a truce.

[necrotic freak]

mosukol lagi ug combating pero waydaganan gihapon.. maka maka bawos lang nang hamas kung trenaydoray..

nahitabo naba ang ingon sa hamas nga ang gaza would be israeli soldiers graveyard?

[blair]

kaluoy sa mga inosente ani uy..

[Malic]

@malic



there exist a palestinian nation but not a palestinian state. there is of course a difference between a nation and a state. a nation is group of people sharing or having the same culture and history while a state has five characteristics population, territory, international recognition, sovereignty and government.

a state can be composed of different nation... so an israeli state is different from a jewish nation although an israeli state can be composed of a palestinian nation and jewish nation.

the state of isarel is not made up only jewish people, but there are actually muslim and arab-citizens in israel and christians also.

thank you for your lecture. Spare me from semantics.

as ia see it the jews and the palestinians can co-exist together in one territory to form one state... which the hamas and some islamist extremist dont like to accept.

oh yes they can co-exist together. Under the muslim rule way way way back, Palestine was a place of peace where people from different cultures and religion co-exist together.

The jews were treated fairly and in fact if my memory serves me right the muslims saved and protected them from being eaten by some greedy people. Actually this is not about Israel and Palestine but Zionism and Hamas.

although i may say over-kill ra kaayo ang israel sa ila gibuhat, but then again.... kung ikaw ang naa s alugar sa israel... you're a soverign state what would you do? show your power and might, economically disabled the city and the hamas will have a diffiult time to rebuild the city... giving more time for israel to have full control of the territory.

tsk tsk...i dont agree. put your place in the shoes of the Palestinian. The people of Palestine are the LUMADS of that land. Israel before just occupied a small portion of the land and because of politics and influenced Israel was able to stretch their land until such a time that the LUMADS only occupied a strip and Israel founded a state,tsk tsk!

innocent people always die in wars. they are the collateral damage. but for an amoral state making a point across a terrorist group they are merely means to an end...

innocent people die in wars? yeah they die by thousands. a modern day holocaust.

an amoral state? toink! unsa may gibuhat sa hamas to the point nga tawagon nimo ni as amoral state? resisting the oppressor is a crime to you.

honestly, talawan kaayo ang hamas ky kung muatake pina-agi ug suicide bomber... when israel step for the challenge and made it into a full scale war they are saying its not right....

the UN has no power... a resolution can do nothing, its merely an opinion from the UN...

its not right when civilians die. mao na ang sulti sa hamas.

Talawan gud tawn. sukol man sila and up till now Israel has not stop the firing of rockets in other words they are not successful in their campaign.

mao ba UN has no power. Actually UN has the power,Gahi lang jud ug ulo ang Israel feeling high and mighty. Kung tinod-on na sila polbos man ng Israel ba.

[Malic]

mosukol lagi ug combating pero waydaganan gihapon.. maka maka bawos lang nang hamas kung trenaydoray..

nahitabo naba ang ingon sa hamas nga ang gaza would be israeli soldiers graveyard?

oh hahaha,trenaydoray? toink

sukol na ug hinamgay basta patas lang ug weapon. Imagine inferior kaau ilang weapon nya gamay ra sila pero ang Israel palaban ug Advance nga weaponry,hahaha. kinsa may talawan ani ron.

Israeli soldies graveyard?wala pa na mahitabo kay wala pa man ang Israel maka penetrate jud sa Gaza. ang first push nila kay tagak man dayun ilang mga tangke,LOLZ. mao ng atras sa sila nya palaban dayun ug air force.

Then dili pod motug-an ang israel oi kung pila ilang damage kay owaw kaau na para nila. Kato bitaw naigo ingun sila nga friendly fire daw? hahahahaha.

[necrotic freak]

oh hahaha,trenaydoray? toink

sukol na ug hinamgay basta patas lang ug weapon. Imagine inferior kaau ilang weapon nya gamay ra sila pero ang Israel palaban ug Advance nga weaponry,hahaha. kinsa may talawan ani ron.

Israeli soldies graveyard?wala pa na mahitabo kay wala pa man ang Israel maka penetrate jud sa Gaza. ang first push nila kay tagak man dayun ilang mga tangke,LOLZ. mao ng atras sa sila nya palaban dayun ug air force.

Then dili pod motug-an ang israel oi kung pila ilang damage kay owaw kaau na para nila. Kato bitaw naigo ingun sila nga friendly fire daw? hahahahaha.

unya? kinsa manang sala nila ron? himo sad ta ang hamas ug advance weaponry.. dili kay busy kaayo sila sa ilang suicide attack.. lol

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

thank you for your lecture. Spare me from semantics.



oh yes they can co-exist together. Under the muslim rule way way way back, Palestine was a place of peace where people from different cultures and religion co-exist together.

The jews were treated fairly and in fact if my memory serves me right the muslims saved and protected them from being eaten by some greedy people. Actually this is not about Israel and Palestine but Zionism and Hamas.


tsk tsk...i dont agree. put your place in the shoes of the Palestinian. The people of Palestine are the LUMADS of that land. Israel before just occupied a small portion of the land and because of politics and influenced Israel was able to stretch their land until such a time that the LUMADS only occupied a strip and Israel founded a state,tsk tsk!




innocent people die in wars? yeah they die by thousands. a modern day holocaust.

an amoral state? toink! unsa may gibuhat sa hamas to the point nga tawagon nimo ni as amoral state? resisting the oppressor is a crime to you.

thousands? grabe ka naman... one thousand tingali... half of them hamas supporters....

its not right when civilians die. mao na ang sulti sa hamas.

Talawan gud tawn. sukol man sila and up till now Israel has not stop the firing of rockets in other words they are not successful in their campaign.

mao ba UN has no power. Actually UN has the power,Gahi lang jud ug ulo ang Israel feeling high and mighty. Kung tinod-on na sila polbos man ng Israel ba.

amoral state, pertains to israel. what they are doing cannot be actually said right or wrong technically since they are a sovereign state therefor they have the right to act on their interest and advantage....hamas is not recognized as a state... taking it from a realist point of view since we are talking about state affairs... which there is actually no order exist... and only power...


hehehe.. UN has no power.. have you seen hotel rwanda? hehehe.... it has no police power, economic sanction still depends on each state...

pls. study your foreign relation before telling me UN has a power...

dili la man gaza ang prob sa world kanang sa north korea di ay, sa burma, sa tibet and china, kashmir.... asa man diha naa bay nabuhat ang UN?

mas naa pa mabuhat ang G8... unfortunately... g8 is backing up israel... well at least in recession ang ilang economy... some rich guys in these states have actually jewish background.. must be the reason... and probably because jews are very useful they proved to be a very intelligent race...

pwede gumawa na lang israel at palestine ng isang state.para naay peace, RIP--- Rest In Peace--- Republic of Israel and Palestine--- nag-una ang Isarael dili dahil christian ko... alphabetical order lang...

[necrotic freak]

mao ba UN has no power. Actually UN has the power,Gahi lang jud ug ulo ang Israel feeling high and mighty. Kung tinod-on na sila polbos man ng Israel ba.

aw wala pa diay sila gitinuod sa hamas?