Why Evil Is a Part of God's Creation

[Hellblazer 2.1]

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maybe naa sa fiction side sa bible.

[Alel]

Hmm. I think the concept of good and evil pre-dates the concept of god...Or at least, this is the sequence in which they are conceptualized. It would make sense that way.

Sakto ba ko Mr. Hellblazer?

[regnauld]

mao ba? asa naman pd na nimo nabasan?

nabasahan? wala, gihunghungan ra ko sa holy spirit kay sige ta ug basa ug bible unya wala diay sa buhat! Bo-otan kuno ta kung matulog!

[The_Child]

Pangutana:

God, being all seeing/all knowing (omnipotent/omniscient)...

...Did he not see beforehand how evil is going to ruin his creation? and if he did, why did he proceed to
create it so if only to undo his very creations?

...If He is the beginning/source of all things and if evil is not of God's nature then who then created evil?

...If we're to point evil to Lucifer, would it be logical to say that evil would have been inexistent if
God did not create him (Lucifer) at all?

God did not create Lucifer.

It is just another old myth.

Another one of the biblical myths
used by religious people
to scare their believers into submission.

I am the greatest fan of God when it comes to His creations (not the biblical creation of course)
I've seen His logic, His artistry, His engineering prowess and His attention to detail.
Creating Lucifer would be illogical, useless, unreasonable, unnecessary and in short...stupid.
And the God I know is not stupid.

i think that, yes, we could say that God is perfect. but that is the most abstract concept that we could grasp - God's perfection. The question then is, if God is perfect, how could us imperfect beings, understand the ways of perfection?

It maybe illogical, it may be irrational, it may be absurd, but that is according to our human minds. we do agree, via negativa, that God is Perfect, but how intricate the manner of this perfection moves is beyond us. This is evident with the development of Logic and the Cognitive Sciences. There are as many forms of logical thinking as there are thinkers. How the Chinese consider logical is different from how the Western world consider logical.


God is perfect, but God's logic is beyond man's capacity to understand unless of course God allows it. God is afterall Timeless, and we are beings in Time. What we see, we experience is always an event, always grounded on the now and before. Our ability to predict the future, through prudence or through other means, is always limited to our knowledge of the present and the past.



cheers!

[Malic]

OT: how do you quote two people at one reply?

[regnauld]

i think that, yes, we could say that God is perfect. but that is the most abstract concept that we could grasp - God's perfection. The question then is, if God is perfect, how could us imperfect beings, understand the ways of perfection?

It maybe illogical, it may be irrational, it may be absurd, but that is according to our human minds. we do agree, via negativa, that God is Perfect, but how the intricate manner of this perfection is beyond us. This is evident with the development of Logic and the Cognitive Sciences. There are as many forms of logical thinking as there are thinkers. How the Chinese consider logical is different from how the Western world consider logical.

So there it is, God is perfect, but God's logic is beyond man's capacity to understand unless of course God allows it.

cheers!

GOD is even beyond our concept of perfection.

[The_Child]

GOD is even beyond our concept of perfection.

not necessarily. such as why we approach the quality of God through the negative, (via negative) what he is not.

So, if God is the superlative of everything ergo God is perfect. but the in-betweens of perfection is beyond us.

@malic

you multi-quote i guess. its besides the quote button and the "quick reply" button.

[regnauld]

not necessarily. such as why we approach the quality of God through the negative, (via negative) what he is not.

So, if God is the superlative of everything ergo God is perfect. but the in-betweens of perfection is beyond us.

@malic

you multi-quote i guess. its besides the quote button and the "quick reply" button.

You have a point. GOD is the GOD ALL in ALL! GOD is beyond GOOD and EVIL. GOD is the ocean and we are the drops of the ocean!

[Malic]

I think that God gave us an idea of His perfection

[Malic]

GOD is even beyond our concept of perfection.

indeed!

not necessarily. such as why we approach the quality of God through the negative, (via negative) what he is not.

So, if God is the superlative of everything ergo God is perfect. but the in-betweens of perfection is beyond us.

@malic

you multi-quote i guess. its besides the quote button and the "quick reply" button.

tnx for the tip.