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    It is hard to know where the dividing line is between good and evil. Certainly it is terrible that bacteria kill two billion people every hundred years. But think of chaos of overpopulation if there were no death! And if everything here were good and perfect, no one would leave this earth of his own accord; no one would want to go back to GOD. So, in a sense misery is our best friend, because it starts seeking GOD. When we begin to see clearly the imperfection of the world, we will begin to seek the perfection of GOD. The truth is that GOD is using evil not to destroy us, but to make us disillusioned with HIS toys, with the playthings of this world, so that we might seek him.

    This is why GOD permits injustices and evil. A master have said to GOD, "Lord, You have never suffered. You have always been perfect. How do you know what suffering is? yet you have put us through these tests; and You had no business doing it. We didn't ask to be born as mortals and to suffer." (GOD doesn't mind that the master argue with him. He is very patient) The Lord answers, "You don't have to go on suffering; I have given everyone the free will to choose good instead of evil, and thus come back to ME."

    So EVIL is the test of GOD to see if we will choose HIM or HIS gifts. HE created us in His image and gave us the power to free ourselves. But we don't use that power. At night, when we cease to be active, we all become godlike. But in the daytime we become devils - not all of us, but most of us. Why not live in tune with GOD in the daytime, for then we shall know no fear, we shall know no evil. It is easy to say this, but hard to practice it. Peace
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    I think lucifer become devil when he fail the test of charity..
    Sa heaven man gud mura pud na daw og school...ang mga angels daw kay student den c jesus christ maestro..dba ang school naa ma nay exam..did2 daw sa heaven naa daw exam/test..mao na gtawag og test of charity...kung mahagbong ka sa 1st and 2nd exam ok pa kung moabot sa 3rd,,tapon gyud sa hell din become evil..based ra ni sa dicussion sa akong SIR..Himbasa man to og bible...

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    another interpretation was that Lucifer, because of Pride and Jealousy could not accept man, a more inferior creature than the celestial beings (angels et al) that man is raised as the creature above all. Loved by God even above angels. Lucifer, was afterall, the first, the bearer of light. and then he was relegated below Man, the ape.

    Lucifer acted upon this, and thus , the Fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    another interpretation was that Lucifer, because of Pride and Jealousy could not accept man, a more inferior creature than the celestial beings (angels et al) that man is raised as the creature above all. Loved by God even above angels. Lucifer, was afterall, the first, the bearer of light. and then he was relegated below Man, the ape.

    Lucifer acted upon this, and thus , the Fall.
    murag mao na.
    gipa-bow down ni God ang mga angels sa iyang greatest creation which is man peru sa pride ni satan kay didto na dayon gasugod.

  5. #185
    Pangutana:

    God, being all seeing/all knowing (omnipotent/omniscient)...

    ...Did he not see beforehand how evil is going to ruin his creation? and if he did, why did he proceed to
    create it so if only to undo his very creations?

    ...If He is the beginning/source of all things and if evil is not of God's nature then who then created evil?

    ...If we're to point evil to Lucifer, would it be logical to say that evil would have been inexistent if
    God did not create him (Lucifer) at all?

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    Luci the great was pure good back then until he's got cracked up!!...

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    just my universal opinion...

    God created Absolute good and evil. Then God created Man in absolute form. But Man created his own version of limited Evil, which God already knew that it was coming.

    So God use his Absolute evilness to punish Man and his limited evilness. God used Evil to supress evil to achieve glorified goodness. Just like what he did to the Israelites during Moses time, when he devoured all the Bad Israelites by breaking of the earth, while they worship the Golden Bull.

    That was pure absolute Godly Evil coming form the wrath of God.

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    hmmmmmmm when you punish someone that doesn't prove that you are evil...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    hmmmmmmm when you punish someone that doesn't prove that you are evil...
    Who punishes? GOD or Man himself?
    Last edited by regnauld; 01-14-2009 at 11:51 PM.

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    lucifer and satan are not one and the same person.

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