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    Quote Originally Posted by moz_k2 View Post
    naa jud ko e-book ani ba
    hehehe
    101 Contradiction in the Bible ata to ang title.
    I too have that great book bro! that is the tool against the bible fanatics!

  2. #382

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Not what the Bible said. It is what the TRUTH I found within.
    then may God bless you my friend.. ive been there hope you can see through it..

    the bible is always pure it can be easily stained whenever somebody wants to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    then may God bless you my friend.. ive been there hope you can see through it..

    the bible is always pure it can be easily stained whenever somebody wants to...
    God bless you too! I salute the GOD within you as I salute mine! Peace!

  4. #384

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Nope.I am still single and am looking for my soulmate!
    so when you have children of your own, dont ever punish them.. not even spanking! ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    so when you have children of your own, dont ever punish them.. not even spanking! ok?
    I wouldn't rely on spanking the child siguro because that would be traumatic psychologically speaking. I believe that there are so many wonderful methods to deal the behavior of the child but punishing him or her through spanking, for me is not really that effective.
    Last edited by regnauld; 01-14-2009 at 03:34 PM.

  6. #386

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I wouldn't rely on spanking the child siguro because that would be traumatic psychologically speaking. I believe that are so many wonderful methods to deal the behavior of the child but punishing him or her through spanking, for me is not really that effective.
    so what are effective wonderful methods? that doesnt deal with punishment ha? that if a 3 yrold child would obey your method..

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    so what are effective wonderful methods? that doesnt deal with punishment ha? that if a 3 yrold child would obey your method..
    You might want to study effective parenting! How to Discipline a Child Effectively Without Spanking - wikiHow

    How to Discipline a Child Effectively Without Spanking

    Parenting is both a challenging and rewarding experience. As with any job, it requires a complete set of "tools" to be effective. Choosing not to spank your child can be especially difficult if you were raised otherwise (as most people were). Follow these steps to discover various techniques that you can use alone or combine in order to become a more effective parent


    Steps
    1. Choose not to spank. This may seem obvious, but there is a world of difference between choosing to spank under certain circumstances and declaring to yourself and others that you will never spank your children.
    2. Forgive yourself if you have spanked in the past. You can only rely on what you know. Now that you are learning a different technique, it is time to move forward instead of dwelling in the past.
    3. Let your immediate family know about your decision. Apologize to your children if you feel the need.
    4. Any members of your immediate family who are not willing to respect your decision not to spank should not be left alone with your children for ANY reason. Someone who does not respect your decision not to spank will not be likely to honor your non-spanking ways with your children, and some family members may even spank them just to aggravate you.
    5. Learn about childhood development (see links below). If you know what your child can feasibly understand at any given age, you will be better prepared to know when discipline is necessary and when it's best to just ignore certain behaviors.
    6. Research the diverse techniques:
      • Natural and Logical Consequences. The basic concept behind these twinned methods is to let nature run its course in most cases (natural consequences) or provide a logical consequence when there is no natural consequence (as in the case of sibling A breaking sibling B's toy when sibling B is far younger) or when the natural consequence can be too dangerous (such as the case of a child trying to run out in the middle of the road).
      • With toddlers and young pre-schoolers be aware that distraction can be an effective tool in redirecting attention from something that they want to do (that is inappropriate) to something that is appropriate. For example, if a child wants to jump on the lounge, suggest going outside and jumping on the trampoline (to allow them to jump appropriately)or going for a walk to the park (fulfilling the desire to be physically active), or even something completely unrelated like making playdough (this can be less effective if the child wants to physically unwind). You can use alternatives for anything inappropriate/undesirable that the child wants to do or have and the closer your alternative is to what they are wanting, the more likely you are to succeed in changing their focus. This technique can avoid frustration and tantrums and can sometimes be intrumental in stopping a tantrum which has already begun. The key is to make the distraction sound as enticing and exciting as possible (and don't draw attention to the undesired activity/object - you are trying to make them forget about that!).
      • Positive Discipline. A technique that sees misbehavior as an opportunity for teaching new behaviors. Also includes setting positive examples in the way you, the parent, act, and eliminating negative language (such as "don't do that" and changing it to "Why don't you do this instead).
      • The Reward System. Intended as a supplement for other methods of discipline, the reward system focuses on ignoring any 'non-harmful' misbehaviors (such as when your child insists upon your immediate attention whenever you are on an important phone call) and going out of your way to praise positive behavior (for example, the child is cleaning his or her room without hardly getting nagged).
    7. Combine the techniques as situations warrant. For example: You may "catch your child being good" (reward system) when he or she plays nicely with a sibling. Later that day, you could let him or her leave a toy out when you know it's going to rain (natural consequences). After the child has learned the toy is ruined, you could show him or her how you organize your things (positive discipline).
    8. Keep at it. As with learning anything new, no-spank techniques can be difficult to master.

  8. #388

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    You might want to study effective parenting! How to Discipline a Child Effectively Without Spanking - wikiHow

    How to Discipline a Child Effectively Without Spanking

    Parenting is both a challenging and rewarding experience. As with any job, it requires a complete set of "tools" to be effective. Choosing not to spank your child can be especially difficult if you were raised otherwise (as most people were). Follow these steps to discover various techniques that you can use alone or combine in order to become a more effective parent


    Steps
    1. Choose not to spank. This may seem obvious, but there is a world of difference between choosing to spank under certain circumstances and declaring to yourself and others that you will never spank your children.
    2. Forgive yourself if you have spanked in the past. You can only rely on what you know. Now that you are learning a different technique, it is time to move forward instead of dwelling in the past.
    3. Let your immediate family know about your decision. Apologize to your children if you feel the need.
    4. Any members of your immediate family who are not willing to respect your decision not to spank should not be left alone with your children for ANY reason. Someone who does not respect your decision not to spank will not be likely to honor your non-spanking ways with your children, and some family members may even spank them just to aggravate you.
    5. Learn about childhood development (see links below). If you know what your child can feasibly understand at any given age, you will be better prepared to know when discipline is necessary and when it's best to just ignore certain behaviors.
    6. Research the diverse techniques:
      • Natural and Logical Consequences. The basic concept behind these twinned methods is to let nature run its course in most cases (natural consequences) or provide a logical consequence when there is no natural consequence (as in the case of sibling A breaking sibling B's toy when sibling B is far younger) or when the natural consequence can be too dangerous (such as the case of a child trying to run out in the middle of the road).
      • With toddlers and young pre-schoolers be aware that distraction can be an effective tool in redirecting attention from something that they want to do (that is inappropriate) to something that is appropriate. For example, if a child wants to jump on the lounge, suggest going outside and jumping on the trampoline (to allow them to jump appropriately)or going for a walk to the park (fulfilling the desire to be physically active), or even something completely unrelated like making playdough (this can be less effective if the child wants to physically unwind). You can use alternatives for anything inappropriate/undesirable that the child wants to do or have and the closer your alternative is to what they are wanting, the more likely you are to succeed in changing their focus. This technique can avoid frustration and tantrums and can sometimes be intrumental in stopping a tantrum which has already begun. The key is to make the distraction sound as enticing and exciting as possible (and don't draw attention to the undesired activity/object - you are trying to make them forget about that!).
      • Positive Discipline. A technique that sees misbehavior as an opportunity for teaching new behaviors. Also includes setting positive examples in the way you, the parent, act, and eliminating negative language (such as "don't do that" and changing it to "Why don't you do this instead).
      • The Reward System. Intended as a supplement for other methods of discipline, the reward system focuses on ignoring any 'non-harmful' misbehaviors (such as when your child insists upon your immediate attention whenever you are on an important phone call) and going out of your way to praise positive behavior (for example, the child is cleaning his or her room without hardly getting nagged).
    7. Combine the techniques as situations warrant. For example: You may "catch your child being good" (reward system) when he or she plays nicely with a sibling. Later that day, you could let him or her leave a toy out when you know it's going to rain (natural consequences). After the child has learned the toy is ruined, you could show him or her how you organize your things (positive discipline).
    8. Keep at it. As with learning anything new, no-spank techniques can be difficult to master.
    i tell you these is not 100% effective to all child.. well lets see when you get there.

    it seems you are so attached with books theories, studies and all that.. get a life bro!
    Last edited by necrotic freak; 01-14-2009 at 03:18 PM.

  9. #389

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    everything else in this world kung maka sala ka naa jud kay punishment, wether humane or inhumane punishment. same as to the world to come...

  10. #390

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    I am not really that attached my friend! I was a Guidance Counselor and I had been counseling lots of parents and children from all walks of life. I don't have to be a parent to know what is right or wrong to discipline a child. I just only observe and study them. That's all. Regarding theories, well, all schools are teaching based on theory and theory I believe is the foundation of effective practice or application.
    Last edited by regnauld; 01-14-2009 at 03:35 PM.

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