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  1. #201

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Hamas is a terrorist group? Nobody will side on a terorrist group? tsk tsk pwerte pagka brainwash nimo no sa mga media nga gi bayaran sa US ug Israel.
    Then what can we call Hamas? Good guys?

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    They are not a terrorist group the fact that UN allowed them to govern Gaza.

    those children were trained to be warriors. In Islam a 12 yr old boy is no longer a kid. They were trained to fight against their oppressor w/c is Israel.
    So if this is what you say, then I say Islam is not recognizing the rules set to all nations. Nagpa ila lang ang Islam pasanginlan para mag buhat ug child warriors. And do you know that using children as soldiers is ILLEGAL and this rule is bound to ALL STATES or NATIONS (and that includes Palestine)?? Well if Islam dont recognize the rules set forth to all, then im sorry but i say i will not respect Islam too.

    but in truth, this is not about religion. i find it dumb for muslims to use religion as a basis to wage war. i dont see this in other religions were they use their religion as an excuse for their oppression.

    land is the issue or being fought here. dont use religion as an excuse. palestine just use this in order to gather support from other muslim nations. and i find it a cowardly act..

  3. #203
    sala jud na sa hamas tanan...

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by pspoon_low-end View Post
    So if this is what you say, then I say Islam is not recognizing the rules set to all nations. Nagpa ila lang ang Islam pasanginlan para mag buhat ug child warriors. And do you know that using children as soldiers is ILLEGAL and this rule is bound to ALL STATES or NATIONS (and that includes Palestine)?? Well if Islam dont recognize the rules set forth to all, then im sorry but i say i will not respect Islam too.

    but in truth, this is not about religion. i find it dumb for muslims to use religion as a basis to wage war. i dont see this in other religions were they use their religion as an excuse for their oppression.

    land is the issue or being fought here. dont use religion as an excuse. palestine just use this in order to gather support from other muslim nations. and i find it a cowardly act..
    very well said...

  5. #205
    walay peace talke ani?

  6. #206
    dili man maminaw ang israel bisan gani sa ceasefire nga getawag sa UN wa panumbalinga........ kaluoy sa mga inosente ani, daghan na kaau ang mga nangamatay, nag anam na ug saka ang death toll sa Gaza

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    Quote Originally Posted by mejie View Post
    dili man maminaw ang israel bisan gani sa ceasefire nga getawag sa UN wa panumbalinga........ kaluoy sa mga inosente ani, daghan na kaau ang mga nangamatay, nag anam na ug saka ang death toll sa Gaza
    Kay ang HAMAS diay naminaw sad. Basaha sa mga news di ba kay mas isog ug sinultihan ang nga leader sa HAMAS. It takes two to tango my friend.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post

    Hamas is a terrorist group? Nobody will side on a terorrist group? tsk tsk pwerte pagka brainwash nimo no sa mga media nga gi bayaran sa US ug Israel.
    Unsa diay ang Hamas?

  9. #209
    well, both sides man daw mga gahi ug ulo nad naa sad mga violations nga nahimo nga di dapat mabuhat sa war.........

  10. #210
    The Zionist Olmert regime continues to thumbed their crooked noses at the various Human Rights organizations & carried on w/ their systematic slaugther of Palestinians.

    Israeli war crimes

    Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
    13 January 2009

    Israel is facing growing demands from senior UN officials and human rights groups for an international war crimes investigation in Gaza over allegations such as the "reckless and indiscriminate" shelling of residential areas and use of Palestinian families as human shields by soldiers.

    With the death toll from the 17-day Israeli assault on Gaza climbing above 900, pressure is increasing for an independent inquiry into specific incidents, such as the shelling of a UN school turned refugee centre where about 40 people died, as well as the question of whether the military tactics used by Israel systematically breached humanitarian law.

    The UN's senior human rights body approved a resolution yesterday condemning the Israeli offensive for "massive violations of human rights". A senior UN source said the body's humanitarian agencies were compiling evidence of war crimes and passing it on to the "highest levels" to be used as seen fit...

    The Israeli military are accused of:

    • Using powerful shells in civilian areas which the army knew would cause large numbers of innocent casualties;

    • Using banned weapons such as phosphorus bombs;

    • Holding Palestinian families as human shields;

    • Attacking medical facilities, including the killing of 12 ambulance men in marked vehicles;

    • Killing large numbers of police who had no military role.


    Israeli military actions prompted an unusual public rebuke from the International Red Cross after the army moved a Palestinian family into a building and shelled it, killing 30. The surviving children clung to the bodies of their dead mothers for four days while the army blocked rescuers from reaching the wounded.

    Human Rights Watch has called on the UN security council to set up a commission of inquiry into alleged war crimes.

    Two leading Israeli human rights organisations have separately written to the country's attorney general demanding he investigate the allegations...


    "There has been reckless and disproportionate and in some cases indiscriminate use of force," said Donatella Rovera, an Amnesty investigator in Israel. "There has been the use of weaponry that shouldn't be used in densely populated areas because it's known that it will cause civilian fatalities and casualties.

    "They have extremely sophisticated missiles that can be guided to a moving car and they choose to use other weapons or decide to drop a bomb on a house knowing that there were women and children inside. These are very, very clear breaches of international law."

    Israel's most prominent human rights organisation, B'Tselem, has written to the attorney general in Jerusalem, Meni Mazuz, asking him to investigate suspected crimes including how the military selects its targets and the killing of scores of policemen at a passing out parade.

    "Many of the targets seem not to have been legitimate military targets as specified by international humanitarian law," said Sarit Michaeli of B'Tselem.

    Rovera has also collected evidence that the Israeli army holds Palestinian families prisoner in their own homes as human shields. "It's standard practice for Israeli soldiers to go into a house, lock up the family in a room on the ground floor and use the rest of the house as a military base, as a sniper's position. That is the absolute textbook case of human shields.

    "It has been practised by the Israeli army for many years and they are doing it again in Gaza now," she said.

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