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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    that's so unfortunate that all christians you met are professing christians.. or it might be that we have a different definition of perfection

    yeah its so hard to identify them maybe due to the divisions caused by the different interpretations done by christian scholars and each professing to be the REAL christians and the rest are the professing ones and you have effectively proven that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    on the basis of what?
    i dont see it...

    Say i dont believe in the bible...tho thats not all true.
    a muslim believing in the bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seven_segment View Post
    i dont see it...



    a muslim believing in the bible?

    you dont have a basis then? my position still stands if thats the case.

    Yes why not.

    We believe in Adam,Noah,Abraham,David,Solomon,Moses.....Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Let's define Perfection first:Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness.

    Question: How can you be perfect when you only have one life live ? does that mean you can achieve perfection only in this lifetime? Are you really sure 100 per cent?
    yes sir there is no perfect christian. i think perfection on christians can only by attained after death.. when the general judgement day comes all living and dead christians will resurrect with their new incorruptable/immortal body to be worthy to enter the new heaven... so while we are still in this life we cant be perfect..

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    yes sir there is no perfect christian. i think perfection on christians can only by attained after death.. when the general judgement day comes all living and dead christians will resurrect with their new incorruptable/immortal body to be worthy to enter the new heaven... so while we are still in this life we cant be perfect..
    I respect your belief! Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    yes sir there is no perfect christian. i think perfection on christians can only by attained after death.. when the general judgement day comes all living and dead christians will resurrect with their new incorruptable/immortal body to be worthy to enter the new heaven... so while we are still in this life we cant be perfect..
    For me it's not ressurection. Again, relatively and practically speaking, if we we were born only once, then we see in nature a devastating, iconoclastic method. Some babies are stillborn, or die afer only a little while, without having had a chance to experience life. People of all ages are stricken with suffering, disease, and tragic death. There is no certainty about life. Every year when new models of cars come out, there are always some that are "lemons," having mechanical defects. Is life like this, too? that somehow in the process of nature some souls are made with firm, sound bodies and minds and others are accidentally given weak bodies and defective brains? Are we just factory productions, with no control over what happens to us? If this life is the begining and the end, then I say it is a teribble injustice. It is ruthless. We don't want to think of a GOD who would create such a life - this world would just be God's great zoo, with us as merely experimental animals, His human guinea pigs. If GOD deliberately made specimens with great talent and others with poor mentality, some beautiful and others deformed, then there is no justice, and no use in religion. And if this is the only life, with no existence hereafter, then there is no point in making effort beyond satisfying our selfish whims of the moment. Peace!
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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    For me it's not ressurection. Again, relatively and practically speaking, if we we were born only once, then we see in nature a devastating, iconoclastic method. Some babies are stillborn, or die afer only a little while, without having had a chance to experience life. People of all ages are stricken with suffering, disease, and tragic death. There is no certainty about life. Every year when new models of cars come out, there are always some that are "lemons," having mechanical defects. Is life like this, too? that somehow in the process of nature some souls are made with firm, sound bodies and minds and others are accidentally given weak bodies and defective brains? Are we just factory productions, with no control over what happens to us? If this life is the begining and the end, then I say it is a teribble injustice. It is ruthless. We don't want to think of a GOD who would create such a life - this world would just be God's great zoo, with us as merely experimental animals, His human guinea pigs. If GOD deliberately made specimens with great talent and others with poor mentality, some beautiful and others deformed, then there is no justice, and no use in religion. And if this is the only life, with no existence hereafter, then there is no point in making effort beyond satisfying our selfish whims of the moment. Peace!
    well thats what on your mind.. respect that.

    but all you have said is all about physical life on earth. Resurrection is nothing to do with our physical mortal life.. i think you have to know what Resurrection is..

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    For me ressurection is a myth. That is just my belief. I don't believe in ressurection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    For me ressurection is a myth. That is just my belief. I don't believe in ressurection.
    so you dont believe in Jesus Christ resurrection?

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    Yes. But I do respect the belief of christians!

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