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    Quote Originally Posted by jaed121907 View Post
    what's the use of hell kung tinuod ning reincarnation aber mura ra ta ani i-recycle dire sa kalibutan! lol!
    who says HELL exists as an Eternal Punishment?

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    Remember about Jesus and the Blind Man?
    Please post it here.. Jesus healed many blind men

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    Please post it here.. Jesus healed many blind men
    John 9,2, "Who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

    The disputed text is the introduction to the healing of the man born blind in John 9,2. Considering the apostles' question: "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?", it is obvious that the first option (the man was born blind because of his sin) implies that he could sin only in a previous life. According to the classic theory of reincarnation, he might have been a cruel dictator who got the just reward for his bad deeds.

    However, the apostles' question about the possibility of having sinned before birth should not necessarily be judged as indicating an existing belief in reincarnation. It rather confirms that some religious factions believed that the fetus could somehow sin in its mother womb. If Jesus had considered reincarnation to be true, surely he would have used this opportunity, as was his custom, to explain to them how karma and reincarnation work in such a peculiar situation. Jesus never missed such opportunities to instruct his disciples on spiritual matters, and reincarnation would have been a crucial doctrine for them to understand.

    Nevertheless, in the answer Jesus gave, he rejected both options suggested by the apostles. Both ideas of sinning before birth and the punishment for the parents' sins were wrong. Jesus said: "Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life" (John 9,3). "The work of God" is described in the next verses, when Jesus healed the blind man as a proof of his divinity
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    err.. I don't see reincarnation there nor a hint of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    err.. I don't see reincarnation there nor a hint of it
    There is no word reincarnation but it implies the meaning of it. I don't just interpret WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS but WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS.

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    want some other verses about the meaning of reincarnation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    There is no word reincarnation but it implies the meaning of it. I don't just interpret WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS but WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS.
    can you explain about it? na unsa nganong reincarnation ang meaning ana

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    can you explain about it? na unsa nganong reincarnation ang meaning ana
    How can you explain the man born blind? Where is the INFINITE LOVE of GOD if GOD created us all equally? It implies that the man was born blind because it was the payment for his sins from his previous life. Reincarnation states that if a man dies without paying all his evil deeds he would surely pay it in the next lifetime. The Law of Karma is perfect ("what you sow is what you reap") and Reincarnation is the answer not HELL as Eternal Punishment of GOD! I hope you get my point.

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    for every action, there is an opposite reaction. -isaac newton

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    How can you explain the man born blind? Where is the INFINITE LOVE of GOD if GOD created us all equally? It implies that the man was born blind because it was the payment for his sins from his previous life. Reincarnation states that if a man dies without paying all his evil deeds he would surely pay it in the next lifetime. The Law of Karma is perfect ("what you sow is what you reap") and Reincarnation is the answer not HELL as Eternal Punishment of GOD! I hope you get my point.
    you are born disable because:
    1.) maybe nag kiat imong inahan pagdala sa iyang tiyan pag mabdos. (drugs, smoking, drinking alcohol, etc...)
    2.) probably your mother got an accident before the baby was born
    3.) dpende sa genes

    etc... i thought you were a fan of science. LOL.

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