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    The fact that the Bible contradicts itself at all, whatever the matter may be, does make a lot of difference. It shows that God was not the author (or inspirer) of all of the Bible, which refutes the claim on the part of evangelical Christians (and Orthodox Jews) that he was. Without the Argument from the Bible to fall back on, evangelical Christian theology is in a heap of trouble with regard to many issues.

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    details over the life of Jesus could be changed over time kay saunang panahon wala man tarong na documentation gud... pero the whole picture is there sa bible.. it's been written by many (as what i've learned)... pero ambot i've never heard nga gi tudlo na sya nga ang bible perfect... or basin na absent ko atong adlawa na gi tudlo na.. hehehe pero para nako the bible is the written testament sa word of God, bahala na nga naay sayup gamay kay tao ra bya ang gasuwat ana pero if you consider the bible in its entirety, deserving jud sya ma consider nga perfect or absolute siya.

    that book "Bible Errancy" by: Theodore Drange is only one source. pls site at least a hundred sources that would prove your point...

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    the Bible has been passed on from generations to generations.

    contradictions? Pfft... not surprised.

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    talk about pass the message...oral tradition style. bound to be with bloopers.

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    2 timothy 3:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by etzina View Post
    details over the life of Jesus could be changed over time kay saunang panahon wala man tarong na documentation gud... pero the whole picture is there sa bible.. it's been written by many (as what i've learned)... pero ambot i've never heard nga gi tudlo na sya nga ang bible perfect... or basin na absent ko atong adlawa na gi tudlo na.. hehehe pero para nako the bible is the written testament sa word of God, bahala na nga naay sayup gamay kay tao ra bya ang gasuwat ana pero if you consider the bible in its entirety, deserving jud sya ma consider nga perfect or absolute siya.

    that book "Bible Errancy" by: Theodore Drange is only one source. pls site at least a hundred sources that would prove your point...
    Well, for the fundamentalist christians the Bible is perfect! Unya nagsugo diay pagsuwat ug Bible ang Ginoo? nga niingon sila the author of the Bible is GOD!

    There is no such thing as Absolute Truth except GOD himself! The BIble is not accurate and not the only source of TRUTH for me! I beleive in GOD as the ultimate and the GOD ALL in ALL but not everything in the Bible is accurate!

    References:

    1. The Argument from The Bible (T. Drange)
    2. The Arguments from confusion and Biblical Defects (T. Drange)
    3. Best Selling Errancy (Mark Ball)
    4. Biblical Problems (Donald Morgan)
    5. The Date of the Nativity in Luke (Richard Carrier)
    6. The Errancy of Fundamentalism Disproves the God of the Bible (Niclas Berggren)
    7. The Failure of Danile's Prophecies (Chris Sandoval)
    8. The Five-Fold Challenge (Robert Berry)
    9. He Commends Me-He Commends Me Not (Tim Simmons)
    10. How to Handle Bibliolaters (Delos McKown)
    11. Is The Bible The Word of GOD ? (Emmett F. Fields)
    12. A List of Biblical Contradictions (Jim Meritt)
    13. New Testament Contradictions (Paul Carlson)
    14. The Skeptical Review (Farrell Till)
    15. Spelling Mistakes in The Bible (Steven Carr)
    16. Why I am Not A Christian (Keith Parsons)
    17. Biblical Criticism
    18. Misquoting Jesus

    I still have lots of sources but my time rans out! GOD Bless!

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    @dartzed, bro imo gipasabot ana imoha kay der are many judge not only one....

    nsa diay gikalibogan nimo bro....kay ako sad nag libog ko nsa boot nimo ipasabot...


    to be exact we have only one judge and its God himself....and no one can doubt about it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Well, for the fundamentalist christians the Bible is perfect! Unya nagsugo diay pagsuwat ug Bible ang Ginoo? nga niingon sila the author of the Bible is GOD!

    There is no such thing as Absolute Truth except GOD himself! The BIble is not accurate and not the only source of TRUTH for me! I beleive in GOD as the ultimate and the GOD ALL in ALL but not everything in the Bible is accurate!
    the real author of the bible is God Himself "through" other people. don't take it literally coz kita mga tao we only have limited capacity in understanding God, who He is, and what He can do.

    para nako, the only errors sa bible is caused by mistranslation... remember the bible is not written in english so kapila na na sya na revise (hundreds of years of work) until nahimo na na sya bible karon na ato ginabasa...

    pero what is truth really? only in the end we will know the truth... mu tuo ko na ang bible holy word of God na sya coz i have faith. now you say you believe in God, asa man proof nga God exists? the closest proof that God do exist is the bible.... and I have faith in that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by etzina View Post
    the real author of the bible is God Himself "through" other people. don't take it literally coz kita mga tao we only have limited capacity in understanding God, who He is, and what He can do.

    para nako, the only errors sa bible is caused by mistranslation... remember the bible is not written in english so kapila na na sya na revise (hundreds of years of work) until nahimo na na sya bible karon na ato ginabasa...

    pero what is truth really? only in the end we will know the truth... mu tuo ko na ang bible holy word of God na sya coz i have faith. now you say you believe in God, asa man proof nga God exists? the closest proof that God do exist is the bible.... and I have faith in that....
    I beleive in the Bible but not entirely because THE BIBLE IS NOT THE ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH for me. I am not a FANATIC of the Bible like some christians. There are other sources of TRUTH other than the Bible and that is found in other sacred books from other religions. I believe that GOD is not only biased to Christianity! GOD is the GOD of all religions in the world!

    What is TRUTH really? Truth is within and without. We have to SEARCh for the TRUTH outside through STUDY and REFLECTION and then go within if it really conforms to our REASON, FAITH and INTUITION. Remember FAITH without SCIENCE is BLIND and SCIENCE without FAITH is LAME as what Einstein said. In the end "NO RELIGION IS HIGHER THAN TRUTH."

    I don't need the BIBLE for me to prove the existence of GOD! Since child I know there is a GOD!
    Last edited by regnauld; 01-10-2009 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
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    full of contradictions man kaha unya nganong mao may gigamit nimo nga source? kadtong niingon ka nga ang Evil gi create sa Ginoo dis a man to nimo kuhaa? diba sa bible?

    maong makaingon ka nga daghang contradictions ang bible kay sa pag interprete man pud gud nimo. matod nimo daghang contradictions, pun an pa jud sa imong misinterpretation, diba nisamot ug kalibog?

    hmmmmm....
    Tell me BIBLE SCHOLAR, how do you interpret the BIBLE correctly?

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