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    hahay...

    kun atong tanawn ang history sa middle east crisis way back before pa sa 6-day war makita nato nga dugay nang nag bawsanay ogg pinatyanay ang mga arabs ug israelis. kinsa may maka trace kinsa gyud ang nanguna? ug kinsa ang napugos pag "self-defense"?

    as long as naa ang israel di malinaw ang middle east. ang mga arabs di maka dawat nga makigsilingan sa mga hudeo. ang mga hudeo di gyud mo biya sa lugar nga nahimo nilang refuge after sa holocaust...whether we like it or not padayon ang gubat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goryo13 View Post
    considering how volatile the situation there, Hamas should have kept away from triggering Israel by digging a 'suspected' tunnel. y'know, you cannot undermined the intelligence network of this nation and going to war by mere suspicion would be stupid. there had to be something there for them to act like that. all i know is, these Hamas guys are bunch of extremist and if they can have it their way, they'd want Israel vanished so they can own the lands that they'd been claiming since ages to be theirs. daghan gyung magpatay tungods yuta.
    UN said that Hamas observed the agreement faithfully.

    my goodness...so kill them because they dug a tunnel? lols

    You know what, US the most advance in matters of gathering intelligence made a big mistake in implicating Iraq with terrorism.

    They could have called UN or US or Egypt to inspect the area. But what did they do? They spayed their bullets and killed people.


    Hamas was formed because Israel occupied their land,remember that, dont twist the story. Hamas resisted Zionism and somehow acheived victory when Israel dis-engaged. Hamas won the election controlled the Palestinian Government. Israel on the other hand doesnt like that because what hamas want is total freedom from foreign rule and Israel can no longer have control over Palestine because their puppet lose the election.

    So what did this Noble country Israel did? they made an economic sanction against palestine. They issued a blocked. thats the reason why UN supplied most of the foods and medicine for the palestinian.


    yes ir correct ka daghang magpatay sa yuta. Israel if you can remember and if you believe in the bible conquered these lands because God told them so. These land was never theirs. From ancient time they invaded and conquered these lands in the name of God and killed the ihabitants including children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard96 View Post
    hahay...

    kun atong tanawn ang history sa middle east crisis way back before pa sa 6-day war makita nato nga dugay nang nag bawsanay ogg pinatyanay ang mga arabs ug israelis. kinsa may maka trace kinsa gyud ang nanguna? ug kinsa ang napugos pag "self-defense"?
    nidepensa lang man ang Israel sa atake sa mga Arabo

    as long as naa ang israel di malinaw ang middle east. ang mga arabs di maka dawat nga makigsilingan sa mga hudeo. ang mga hudeo di gyud mo biya sa lugar nga nahimo nilang refuge after sa holocaust...whether we like it or not padayon ang gubat.
    kung ato jud nga subayon dugay na man ang Israel dha.. sa wala pa na sila masakop sa Roma naa na na sila dha.. nawala na sila dha katong gibihag sila sa Babylon ug gipabalik sila katong napildi ang Babylon sa Medo-Persia.. dugay na jud na sila dha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Hamas was formed because Israel occupied their land,remember that, dont twist the story. Hamas resisted Zionism and somehow acheived victory when Israel dis-engaged. Hamas won the election controlled the Palestinian Government. Israel on the other hand doesnt like that because what hamas want is total freedom from foreign rule and Israel can no longer have control over Palestine because their puppet lose the election.
    nah.. they don't like Hamas because they're firing rockets on Israel.. ikaw kuno bombahan ka sa imong silingan imo lang palabyon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    Who is the rightful owner of the land? Mao na dinha ang pangutana ron. Remember, before it became Palestine, it was the land of the Jews hundreds of years before. Who has the right to control the land? Nganong dili man puede mag hating kapatid? Di ba gibahin naman na, one Jewish state and one Arab state. Why can't they live in harmony?

    Mao nang wala'y resolution ani nga conflict. HAMAS will NOT compromise. To them, it's all or nothing. HAMAS will not back down, and you better believe the Jews will not back down either. So ang resulta, syempre mag gubat gyud. Sakto gyud kaayo, daghang nagpatay tungod sa yuta.

    Hamas' objective is to regain control of the land. Matod pa nila, they will permit Jews to remain, but only under Palestinian rule. Israel of course, will never allow that to happen. They would rather die a thousand deaths before they let themselves be driven away again from their land.

    So, klaro kaayo, unsaon man pag resolve ani nga conflict? The only probable outcome is total and complete annihilation.

    No no. Palestine was inhabited by the lumads of that land. Israel by the instruction of God *scratching my head* invaded these territories on the premise that God promised to them that these lands belong to them.


    oh no maybe what they meant was that they want to be totally free from the rule of Israel. Because as of now Israel is still calling the shots and still trying to disturb them politically.


    thats why i posted in this thread that if they(Hamas and israel) want an all out war they must evacute the civilians.
    Last edited by Malic; 01-08-2009 at 06:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    since 1948 when the State of Israel was formed Israel was on the defensive.. they only expanded when the Arabs were defeated.. If the Arabs didn't attack them first then they wouldn't have expanded their territory..
    good point. after sa 6-day war mi extend ang israel para naa silay buffer zone in case mo attack ang ilang mga kontra. strategically, sakto ang gibuhat sa israel. kay di man sila ang nanguna ato nga gubat may right sila pag claim sa extended territory as war gain. wa say right ang mga arabs mo complain. mao nay gi-ingon: "anyone who demands redress of grievance must come with clean hands."

    ang israel nag salig sad kay sila ang pound-for-pound strongest armed forces in the world, plus ally pa gyud sila sa US.

    kun naa man gani angay mabasol ani, ang UN kay basta-basta na lang nila gi establish ang state of israel without the general consent of the people sa middle east at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    since 1948 when the State of Israel was formed Israel was on the defensive.. they only expanded when the Arabs were defeated.. If the Arabs didn't attack them first then they wouldn't have expanded their territory..

    thats not true dont bite the bait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard96 View Post
    hahay...

    kun atong tanawn ang history sa middle east crisis way back before pa sa 6-day war makita nato nga dugay nang nag bawsanay ogg pinatyanay ang mga arabs ug israelis. kinsa may maka trace kinsa gyud ang nanguna? ug kinsa ang napugos pag "self-defense"?

    as long as naa ang israel di malinaw ang middle east. ang mga arabs di maka dawat nga makigsilingan sa mga hudeo. ang mga hudeo di gyud mo biya sa lugar nga nahimo nilang refuge after sa holocaust...whether we like it or not padayon ang gubat.

    during the Ottoman rule Jews christians and muslims live side by side.

    Its not true that Arabs dont like the jews as their neighbor. Its the other way around,these people are so self rigtheous that they think that they are the ONLY children of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    thats not true dont bite the bait.
    well you can prove me wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    nidepensa lang man ang Israel sa atake sa mga Arabo



    kung ato jud nga subayon dugay na man ang Israel dha.. sa wala pa na sila masakop sa Roma naa na na sila dha.. nawala na sila dha katong gibihag sila sa Babylon ug gipabalik sila katong napildi ang Babylon sa Medo-Persia.. dugay na jud na sila dha

    wrong. Israel invaded that area on the premise that God or should i say their God is the owner of the earth and those lands were given to them. Read your bible.

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