Gaza war

[Malic]

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could be true.. coz ang western media grabe kaayo ka bias raba. especially CNN & NBC..

didto jud cla na exposed atong war sa Russia vs Georgia.

then you have to present an evidence that what they reported is not true. do you have one?

[Malic]

here is more...

UN confirms that Israel broke the truce...

YouTube - Israel broke the cease-fire

[jdimpas]

here is more...

UN confirms that Israel broke the truce...

YouTube - Israel broke the cease-fire

On 17 June 2008, and after months of mediation by Egypt, Egyptian mediators announced that an informal truce was agreed between Hamas and Israel. The truce was set to start from 19 June 2008. Israeli officials initially declined to confirm or deny the agreement while Hamas announced that "[it] will adhere to the timetable which was set by Egypt but it is Hamas's right to respond to any Israeli aggression before its implementation".


On November 5, 2008 the ceasefire began to break down after Hamas militants digging infiltration tunnels into Israel were discovered by Israeli Defense Forces and fired upon. Hamas responded with a barrage of rockets which led to Defense Minister Ehud Barak giving approval for Operation Cast Lead, a series of airstrikes across Gaza, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert after discussion with Barak decided to put the operation on hold. On 23 December 2008, Hamas issued a statement declaring the six months ceasefire was over, Hamas blamed Israel for the end of the ceasefire on Friday, saying it had not respected its terms, including the lifting of the blockade under which little more than humanitarian aid has been allowed into Gaza. The following day, following the launch of more than 70 rockets from Gaza targeted at Israel, Hamas issued a statement that they would consider renewing the expired truce—"if Israel stopped its aggression" in Gaza and opened up its border crossings. The previous six weeks had seen a "dramatic increase" in attacks from Hamas, spiking at some 200 or so a day, according to the Israeli government. On December 24, Israeli President Shimon Peres visited the western Negev town of Sderot which has been bombarded by Hamas rockets on a regular basis. Joining with residents in a Hanukkah candle-lighting ceremony, Peres said: "In Gaza they are lighting rockets and in Sderot we are lighting candles."


Over the weekend of 27-28 December, Israel implemented Operation Cast Lead against Hamas. Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said "We warned Hamas repeatedly that rejecting the truce would push Israel to aggression against Gaza."Hamas has estimated that at least 100 members of its security forces had been killed. According to Israel, militant training camps, rocket-manufacturing facilities and weapons warehouses that had been pre-identified were hit, and later they attacked rocket and mortar squads who fired around 180 rockets and mortars at Israeli communities. The chief of Gaza's police forces, Tawfiq Jabber, was among those killed. In its attempt to avoid civilian casualties, Israel sent out thousands of cell-phone messages to Gaza, urging residents to leave homes where weapons may be stored. Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak indicated the operation will continue until the firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel ceases.

[jdimpas]

in my own cents, both sides are accountable (IDF/Hamas)..
i don't really rely on what media says'.. perhaps there are deeper reasons in this conflict.
hopefully this war will be halt soon..

[Malic]

On 17 June 2008, and after months of mediation by Egypt, Egyptian mediators announced that an informal truce was agreed between Hamas and Israel. The truce was set to start from 19 June 2008. Israeli officials initially declined to confirm or deny the agreement while Hamas announced that "[it] will adhere to the timetable which was set by Egypt but it is Hamas's right to respond to any Israeli aggression before its implementation".


On November 5, 2008 the ceasefire began to break down after Hamas militants digging infiltration tunnels into Israel were discovered by Israeli Defense Forces and fired upon. Hamas responded with a barrage of rockets which led to Defense Minister Ehud Barak giving approval for Operation Cast Lead, a series of airstrikes across Gaza, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert after discussion with Barak decided to put the operation on hold. On 23 December 2008, Hamas issued a statement declaring the six months ceasefire was over, Hamas blamed Israel for the end of the ceasefire on Friday, saying it had not respected its terms, including the lifting of the blockade under which little more than humanitarian aid has been allowed into Gaza. The following day, following the launch of more than 70 rockets from Gaza targeted at Israel, Hamas issued a statement that they would consider renewing the expired truce—"if Israel stopped its aggression" in Gaza and opened up its border crossings. The previous six weeks had seen a "dramatic increase" in attacks from Hamas, spiking at some 200 or so a day, according to the Israeli government. On December 24, Israeli President Shimon Peres visited the western Negev town of Sderot which has been bombarded by Hamas rockets on a regular basis. Joining with residents in a Hanukkah candle-lighting ceremony, Peres said: "In Gaza they are lighting rockets and in Sderot we are lighting candles."


Over the weekend of 27-28 December, Israel implemented Operation Cast Lead against Hamas. Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said "We warned Hamas repeatedly that rejecting the truce would push Israel to aggression against Gaza."Hamas has estimated that at least 100 members of its security forces had been killed. According to Israel, militant training camps, rocket-manufacturing facilities and weapons warehouses that had been pre-identified were hit, and later they attacked rocket and mortar squads who fired around 180 rockets and mortars at Israeli communities. The chief of Gaza's police forces, Tawfiq Jabber, was among those killed. In its attempt to avoid civilian casualties, Israel sent out thousands of cell-phone messages to Gaza, urging residents to leave homes where weapons may be stored. Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak indicated the operation will continue until the firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel ceases.

They entered Gaza by firing shots and killed hamas militants. There was a ceasefire. Who fired first? Israel. Who killed first? Israel.

They were digging tunnels,so? Is digging tunnel a crime? Paranoia on Israel's part is not good it may lead you to believe that they were digging INFILTRATION tunnels. They can inspect it by asking UN or Egypt to supervise the inspection.

you dont fire shots based on SUSPICION specially when you are observing a ceasefire.

[jdimpas]

^^ i knew how you felt about with your Muslim brothers. I myself saw how my Palestinian colleagues lamented here..

[Malic]

^^ i knew how you felt about with your Muslim brothers. I myself saw how my Palestinian colleagues lamented here..

thank you, I appreciate that.

[Malic]

in my own cents, both sides are accountable (IDF/Hamas)..
i don't really rely on what media says'.. perhaps there are deeper reasons in this conflict.
hopefully this war will be halt soon..

Yes i too hope that this war will end soon.

[benj04]

helo.
want to ask wat triggered them to start all the chaos?

[DrE]

They were digging tunnels,so? Is digging tunnel a crime?

Digging infiltration tunnels going into Israel is probably a crime in Israels view. Same as how the US patrols its borders with Mexico. The walls were there for a reason.

Paranoia on Israel's part is not good it may lead you to believe that they were digging INFILTRATION tunnels. They can inspect it by asking UN or Egypt to supervise the inspection.

From Gaza into Israel, what other purpose would a Hamas tunnel serve? Faced with years of suicide bombers yes paranoia sets in.

you dont fire shots based on SUSPICION specially when you are observing a ceasefire.

I bet allowing illegal ways to get into Israel from Gaza via tunnels wasnt part of the ceasefire deal.