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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    yes indoctrinated by their so called religion!
    but that can be prevented if the child is to be admitted in a mystery school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    but that can be prevented if the child is to be admitted in a mystery school.
    Yes. How I wish I had parents who were inititiated into the secret mysteries.

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    Yes. How I wish I had parents who were inititiated into the secret mysteries.
    it's never too late to be a Rosicrucian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I will cite an example. If a child was born growing up without a religion, do you think that child cannot experience spirituality? I think no. The child starts to wonder about the universe and its mysteries and will come to the conclusion that there is a higher being or great architect who designed this universe. The child feels he is part of the great wonders of life. My point: The child in essence is spiritual.

    what i meant was your statement where you said that "Man is a spiritual being having a human experience rather than a spiritual being having a human experience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    what i meant was your statement where you said that "Man is a spiritual being having a human experience rather than a spiritual being having a human experience."
    According to the writer we were spiritual beings first (having individual soul) then we assumed a physical body when we were born. So, the spirit came first then second the body. That's why "Man is a spiritual being first having this human experience (physical) rather than a human being first having a spiritual experience." I hope it's clear to you now.

    I'm sorry there was a typographical error last time in my post! "Man is a Spiritual Being having a human experience rather than a human being having a spiritual experience." - Teilhard de Chardin
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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    According to the writer we were spiritual beings first (having individual soul) then we assumed a physical body when we were born. So, the spirit came first then second the body. That's why "Man is a spiritual being first having this human experience (physical) rather than a human being first having a spiritual experience." I hope it's clear to you now.
    ah...thats more clear.hehe

    tan-awa imo first gisulti,its totally different,hehe.


    Only in Religion can man developed his spirituality. Therefore we need Religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    ah...thats more clear.hehe

    tan-awa imo first gisulti,its totally different,hehe.


    Only in Religion can man developed his spirituality. Therefore we need Religion.
    You have a point. I believe that all religions have mystical side or inner teachings that can help man spiritually evolve. In Islam the mystical side is called SUFISM.

    And I believe that Man does not necessarily need to join a religion to experience spirituality. He can experience it everyday and in every moment of his life by being conscious of his essence that he is a spiritual being. What is important is that he lives in peace and harmony with everybody! There is no need to convert a person to join a specific religion if he doesn't want to. What is important is that we RESPECT his VALUES as a person. Peace!
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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    You have a point. I believe that all religions have mystical side or inner teachings that can help man spiritually evolve. In Islam the mystical side is called SUFISM.

    And I believe that Man does not necessarily need to join a religion to experience spirituality. He can experience it everyday and in every moment of his life by being conscious of his essence that he is a spiritual being. What is important is that he lives in peace and harmony with everybody! There is no need to convert a person to join a specific religion if he doesn't want to. What is important is that we RESPECT his VALUES as a person.

    Much of our values and cultures of today came from Religion.

    What would you say to a child if he ask "Father who created this and that?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Much of our values and cultures of today came from Religion.

    What would you say to a child if he ask "Father who created this and that?"
    I agree.

    If a child would ask a lot about the creation or something spiritual, then you teach him by being objective as much as possible. My point is that you don't need to convert a person from your own point of view if he doesn't want to subscribe to your own version of truth. After all, the child will learn to realize deeper truths along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I agree.

    If a child would ask a lot about the creation or something spiritual, then you teach him by being objective as much as possible. My point is that you don't need to convert a person from your own point of view if he doesn't want to subscribe to your own version of truth. After all, the child will learn to realize deeper truths along the way.
    I see but isnt that teaching religion to a child.

    of course you dont force people to convert.

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