Gaza war

[Malic]

This happend after they(Israel) withdraw their presence in Gaza.

The normality of Palestinian life has also been jeopardized by intense episodes of Israeli assault since the disengagement, prolonging the economic crisis with unfavorable periods of unpredictability. The chronology of military events cannot be interpreted in isolation and should be considered in coordination with two significant events that occurred soon after the disengagement plan was implemented, namely the ascent of Hamas to the Palestinian Authority in January 2006 and the cross-border abduction of an Israeli soldier by Hamas-affiliated militants the following summer. Over the course of five months, Israel launched Operation Summer Rains, firing 200-250 artillery shells into Gaza daily and launching over 200 air strikes, which killed over 400 Palestinians combined. [19] In contrast, Palestinians fired an average of nine homemade rockets into Israel daily during the same period, killing four Israeli soldiers and six Israeli civilians. [20] Despite a tentative ceasefire in December 2006, fighting continued sporadically and eventually culminated in Israel's reinvasion of the strip in May 2007 and the persistence of almost daily incursions ever since. The recent decision to brand the Gaza Strip an "enemy entity" would have been laughable, had it not so appallingly revealed Israel's intentions for the Gaza Strip---Kris Petersen, The Electronic Intifada, 24 November 2007

See w/c party caused more damaged on civilians?

For one abducted Israeli soldier the cost is too much.

[pspoon_low-end]

what im saying is...The propaganda is, that Hamas are USING civilians as shields. When you say a statement like that the picture that comes to mind is that they are tying the civilians around their bodies and military stuctures.

i didnt say or mean that civilians are tied with the hamas. hehehe thats really far off. what i mean is that these hamas militiamen do know that there are civilians in the place where they are firing rockets. so whenever israel fires back, those civilians are also killed thus they (hamas) make the statement that israel is killing the civilians. my question is... "Why fire rockets in heavily populated areas?" if they care for their own people, they wouldnt be doing that dba? i made my point already from my first post here in this thread. hamas just cant accept their casualties whenever they fire rockets in the open bec they will be targeted in seconds.

watch this video hamas militiamen firing rockets in the school grounds. take full note: SCHOOL GROUNDS. why the hell would militiamen use a school to do their dirty work so if israel retaliates, children will die, and hamas happy to blame israel of the carnage. plain and simple work of a terrorist.

YouTube - hamas firing from school

[Malic]

i didnt say or mean that civilians are tied with the hamas. hehehe thats really far off. what i mean is that these hamas militiamen do know that there are civilians in the place where they are firing rockets. so whenever israel fires back, those civilians are also killed thus they (hamas) make the statement that israel is killing the civilians. my question is... "Why fire rockets in heavily populated areas?" if they care for their own people, they wouldnt be doing that dba? i made my point already from my first post here in this thread. hamas just cant accept their casualties whenever they fire rockets in the open bec they will be targeted in seconds.

watch this video hamas militiamen firing rockets in the school grounds. take full note: SCHOOL GROUNDS. why the hell would militiamen use a school to do their dirty work so if israel retaliates, children will die, and hamas happy to blame israel of the carnage. plain and simple work of a terrorist.

YouTube - hamas firing from school

and i did explain to you that whenever you used statement like that it conjures a different picture.

why should they not fire rockets in populated areas? They can fire their rockets anywhere even in school grounds.

The concern should be,why retaliate when you know that there are civilians within the premise. You can engage in a war where you can avoid civilain casualties.

[pspoon_low-end]

and you expect the israelis to just sit and watch hamas rockets destroy their homes and killing the civilians? thats what i said before. eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

i hope you know that these rockets used by the hamas dont have guidance systems. they land whenever they run out of steam. so this means anyone is targeted in israel including civilians.

mas maayo na lang kada tira sa israel naay mamatay nga hamas militiaman bisan damay civilians. dili kay kada tira sa hamas, women, children and old folks ang patay. ang mga sundalo sa israel di nila ma target kay wa may klaro ila rockets.

[Malic]

and you expect the israelis to just sit and watch hamas rockets destroy their homes and killing the civilians? thats what i said before. eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

i hope you know that these rockets used by the hamas dont have guidance systems. they land whenever they run out of steam. so this means anyone is targeted in israel including civilians.

mas maayo na lang kada tira sa israel naay mamatay nga hamas militiaman bisan damay civilians. dili kay kada tira sa hamas, women, children and old folks ang patay. ang mga sundalo sa israel di nila ma target kay wa may klaro ila rockets.

and i already told you,if they(Israel and Hamas) want an all out war,they must clear the place from civilans first.

if they want an eye for an eye,take the civilians out of it.

kada tira sa hamas civilians ang mangamatay? get your facts straight.


lunch time and praying time too,got to go.

[pspoon_low-end]

and i already told you,if they(Israel and Hamas) want an all out war,they must clear the place from civilans first.

if they want an eye for an eye,take the civilians out of it.

kada tira sa hamas civilians ang mangamatay? get your facts straight.


lunch time and praying time too,got to go.

yes. i believe your point. take those civilians out.

but when Hamas fired their Qassam rockets into israel, did they tell the israelis to clear out the civilians first? hmmmm. i guess not.

heres what the hamas are using...
The Qassam rocket (Arabic: صاروخ القسام‎ Ṣārūkh al-Qassām; also Kassam) is a simple steel rocket filled with explosives, produced by Hamas. Three models have been used. They are all free-flying artillery rockets lacking any guidance system.

the facts are there. its just that SOME people dont believe on it. hehehe

[lestat1116]

Gaza from wikipedia:

In September 1993, leaders of Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) signed the Oslo Accords calling for Palestinian administration of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank town of Jericho, which was implemented in May 1994. The Israeli forces left Gaza, leaving a new Palestinian National Authority to administer and police the city, along with most of the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian Authority, led by Yasser Arafat, chose Gaza as its first provincial headquarters. In September 1995, Israel and the PLO signed a second peace agreement extending the Palestinian Authority to most West Bank towns. The agreement also established an elected 88-member Palestinian National Council, which held its inaugural session in Gaza in March 1996.[citation needed]

On September 12, 2005 the Israeli cabinet formally declared an end to military rule. Israel also withdrew from the Philadelphi Route, a narrow strip adjacent to the border with Egypt, after Egypt agreed to secure its side of the border. Under the Oslo Accords, the Philadelphi Route was to remain under Israeli control to prevent arms smuggling. With Egypt agreeing to patrol its side of the border, it was hoped that this objective would be achieved.[20] Hamas won a surprise victory in the Palestinian elections in early 2006. Since then, it has been engaged in a violent power struggle with Fatah. In 2007, Hamas violently overthrew Fatah forces in the Gaza Strip and its members were dismissed from the PNA government as a result. Currently, Hamas has de facto control of the area.[21] In response to continued Qassam rocket attacks launched by terrorist organizations, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, from civilian population centers in the Gaza Strip, Israel has bombarded originating attack sites in Gaza and nearby cities in the Gaza strip. The European Union and the United Nations have called Israel's actions "disproportionate", but also demand that terrorists halt rocket attacks on Israel.[22]

A human rights coalition charged March 6, 2008 that the humanitarian situation in Gaza had reached its worst point since Israel occupied the territory in the 1967 Six-Day War.[23] On December 27-28, 2008 Israel commenced air strikes against Hamas infrastructure in Gaza that has claimed more than 500 people to date. The victims included Hamas security forces and civilians, in the latest military excursion code-named Operation Cast Lead.[24] Israel stated the strikes were in response to recent rocket fire from Palestinian militants and Palestinians stated that rocket fires were in response to Israel Siege of Gaza strip. On January 3rd, 2009, Israeli tanks and infantry invaded Gaza with air support from gunships. Israel vowed to eliminate Hamas control of the region. Palestine have stated in the past that Israel must stop enforcing the blockade on Gaza, as it considered a hostile military action on its territory.[25] [26]

[flanker]

cant blame Israel.. ang Hamas nag start ani... the purpose of this war is stop the rockets.

[lestat1116]

whos supporting hamas? news says iran/syria is supporting hamas and countries against terror are supporting israel. hope this wont get bigger or this is the start of WW3 or a religious war.

[Malic]

yes. i believe your point. take those civilians out.

but when Hamas fired their Qassam rockets into israel, did they tell the israelis to clear out the civilians first? hmmmm. i guess not.

heres what the hamas are using...
The Qassam rocket (Arabic: صاروخ القسام‎ Ṣārūkh al-Qassām; also Kassam) is a simple steel rocket filled with explosives, produced by Hamas. Three models have been used. They are all free-flying artillery rockets lacking any guidance system.

the facts are there. its just that SOME people dont believe on it. hehehe

Believe on what? The Qassam rocket? its all over the news before.

Thats why i told you before and i will again tell you...that if they(Hamas and Israel) want to have an all out war they must evacuate the civilians first.

but you see i think Hamas just retaliated with a bloody result of course. Israel is blocking the air space ,ports,borders. Controlling economic inflow to Gaza that resulted to economic decline.

and where there is deprivation,rage is the instant thing that comes to your mind.