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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    STATE OF BEING is too general. how about the STATE OF BEING WITHOUT SIN? is it retained? how about the STATE OF BEING HOLY? what doctrine of faith backs up your points?


    but it does not mean we CANNOT USE COMMON SENSE.


    we WERE one. until we CHOOSE to walk away AND NEVER COME BACK. when GOD will separate the sheep from the goats, this ESSENCE will be destroyed. we must do our part.


    so, is the serial killer conscious about our essence that we are spiritual beings -one with GOD?


    i am a man in search of GOD and His Kingdom.


    we CAN BE HOLY. but we CANNOT be as is when we COMMIT SIN and NOT STRIVE TO REPENT. (oh, for a fact, an eye can see itself)
    What doctrine of faith? I based it from the spiritual teachings of all the saints and masters from other religions and that includes Jesus The Christ. I have already answered your questions. I don't focus so much on sinfulness but on Our REAL NATURE which is DIVINE and SPIRITUAL. THE LAW OF KARMA is Universal. God does not punish nor reward. We punish and reward ourselves by the consequences of our actions (GOOD and BAD).

    You said "i am a man in search of GOD and His Kingdom. " Jesus said "THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU." It's there with you forever the moment GOD created you.

    This is how we differ my friend. I respect your beliefs. I salute The GOD within you as I salute mine. PEACE!
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    Default so, what you're trying to say is...?

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Bro, I am sorry to say that the the essence of man is holy! " Man is a spiritual being having a human experience not a human being having a spiritual experience." - Teilhard de Chardin

    I respect your faith my friend. No need to argue anymore! Peace!
    haha. spiritual = holy?
    you don't seem to explain your points well. you go to another different far fetched topic to cover up your tracks. so, you, sir, conclude that a serial killer is HOLY. hm, a HOLY SERIAL KILLER. LET IT BE added to the list of oxy*****s.

    "Be Holy For I am Holy" - Leviticus 19:2, spoken by the LORD GOD himself

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    Yes.....Holy siya! Y not?

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    No One is Holy
    -jOaL

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    What doctrine of faith? I based it from the spiritual teachings of all the saints and masters from other religions and that includes Jesus The Christ.
    so point out those teachings. what verses in the Bible? or Qu'ran for that matter. or whatever religious book.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I have already answered your questions. I don't focus so much on sinfulness but on Our REAL NATURE which is DIVINE and SPIRITUAL.
    no you haven't. i'll post the questions again :

    [1]"Man inherited from God the essence of holiness and being without sin. when man commits sin, is this essence of being without sin retained? is man still a being without sin?"

    [2]"In similar context, in the event of unholy actions, is being holy still retained?"

    Man is yes, a spiritual being, and roots from the DIVINE. but we're talking about one word here. HOLINESS.

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    THE LAW OF KARMA is Universal. God does not punish nor reward. We punish and reward ourselves by the consequences of our actions (GOOD and BAD).
    oh, so GOD doesn't punish? what verse in any religious (Christian) book can that argument be found??

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    You said "i am a man in search of GOD and His Kingdom. " Jesus said "THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU." It's there with you forever the moment GOD created you.

    This is how we differ my friend. I respect your beliefs. I salute The GOD within you as I salute mine. PEACE!
    oh, but i continue to search. i do not rest on my laurels. i will do my part.

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    or to make things easy for you, what part of any religious(Christian) bible did imply this statement:
    "A man retains his HOLINESS even though he does not strive to keep it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    or to make things easy for you, what part of any religious(Christian) bible did imply this statement:
    "A man retains his HOLINESS even though he does not strive to keep it".
    Bro, I am sorry to say that the the essence of man is holy! " Man is a spiritual being having a human experience not a human being having a spiritual experience." - Teilhard de Chardin

    I respect your faith my friend. No need to argue anymore! Peace!

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    haha. spiritual = holy?
    you don't seem to explain your points well. you go to another different far fetched topic to cover up your tracks. so, you, sir, conclude that a serial killer is HOLY. hm, a HOLY SERIAL KILLER. LET IT BE added to the list of oxy*****s.

    "Be Holy For I am Holy" - Leviticus 19:2, spoken by the LORD GOD himself

    (MODS: this post was supposed to be @ 286, i wondered why it went @ 283)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    haha. spiritual = holy?
    you don't seem to explain your points well. you go to another different far fetched topic to cover up your tracks. so, you, sir, conclude that a serial killer is HOLY. hm, a HOLY SERIAL KILLER. LET IT BE added to the list of oxy*****s.

    "Be Holy For I am Holy" - Leviticus 19:2, spoken by the LORD GOD himself

    (MODS: this post was supposed to be @ 286, i wondered why it went @ 283)
    Amen Pastor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    hmmmmmmmm but Jesus a God was once a man back then...
    He was a son of man in flesh,..but God in Spirit,...it means you put Jesus as a man,...

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