Is the Pope in the Vatican worthy to be Holy?

[regnauld]

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so, it goes without saying, that a carnivore who eats plants is still a carnivore? or an christian who does not believe in Christ is still a christian? a student who does not take the act of studying is still a student? what gives?

How can a Christian cannot believe in Christ? unless you are a great pretender. that's an illogical question. analyze it. can you be called a Christian if you don't believe in Jesus Christ? can you be called an Atheist if you believe in God?

for a student who does not take the act of studying is still a student? Yes and it does not mean that when you don't study you are not a student anymore or it does not follow that if you don't study, your being a student is gone! gets? that' logic my friend! Peace!

[regnauld]

How can a Christian cannot believe in Christ? unless you are a great pretender. that's an illogical question. analyze it. can you be called a Christian if you don't believe in Jesus Christ? can you be called an Atheist if you believe in God?

for a student who does not take the act of studying is still a student? Yes and it does not mean that when you don't study you are not a student anymore or it does not follow that if you don't study, your being a student is gone! gets? that' logic my friend! Peace!

I think bro you are testing my logical mind. Let's go back to the issue of holiness!

[NASYO]

i would say, holy dope.. aw sorry, holy pope diay..

[carmicael]

How can a Christian cannot believe in Christ? unless you are a great pretender. that's an illogical question. analyze it. can you be called a Christian if you don't believe in Jesus Christ? can you be called an Atheist if you believe in God?

for a student who does not take the act of studying is still a student? Yes and it does not mean that when you don't study you are not a student anymore or it does not follow that if you don't study, your being a student is gone! gets? that' logic my friend! Peace!

so, how can a holy man, perform unholy deeds? illogical, isn't it?

[carmicael]

for a student who does not take the act of studying is still a student? Yes and it does not mean that when you don't study you are not a student anymore or it does not follow that if you don't study, your being a student is gone! gets? that' logic my friend! Peace!

so let's talk about logic. a person who is subject to learning/study is a student. does it not go vice versa, that a student is a person who is subject to learning/study? i believe it does. if so, it also follows, that a person who does not subject himself to learning/study, is not a student. now, that's logic.

[timo]

so, how can a holy man, perform unholy deeds? illogical, isn't it?

No one person is infallible. Kong ang honest man ni lie ka usa, does that make him a liar? Kong naay evil man ni do og good deeds, does that make him good? It depends unsa imong standard usa paka maka label baka og tao og "holy" or "unholy". If imong standard for a man to be "holy" kay dili jud mo buhat og "unholy" deeds, then logically impossible mana kay wala man juy tao na maka escapo og being unholy because fallible man jud na ang humans.

[carmicael]

No one person is infallible. Kong ang honest man ni lie ka usa, does that make him a liar? Kong naay evil man ni do og good deeds, does that make him good? It depends unsa imong standard usa paka maka label baka og tao og "holy" or "unholy". If imong standard for a man to be "holy" kay dili jud mo buhat og "unholy" deeds, then logically impossible mana kay wala man juy tao na maka escapo og being unholy because fallible man jud na ang humans.

so, answer this question: by any Christian church's standards, is a rapist(a man who rapes) or a serial killer(a man who kills for fun), holy?

[carbrill]

to answer ur question carmicaeld YES still dey r holy... only that there being holy was/is stained...

we are all holy but we used it in a wrong way... u can't take away the holiness of a person but it is only covered by our sins...

[carmicael]

to answer ur question carmicaeld YES still dey r holy... only that there being holy was/is stained...

we are all holy but we used it in a wrong way... u can't take away the holiness of a person but it is only covered by our sins...

hm. you're becoming illogical. "we're holy, but we used it in a wrong way"; this is indirectly saying that "we're holy, but we're not"; same as saying "i like you, but i don't". what gives?

[carmicael]

^to add: is there such a thing as a HOLY RAPIST? i don't think so. it's outright inappropriate.